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« on: February 06, 2012, 11:46:08 AM »

MYTH:
If you have stronger biceps, you have less chance to tire tear your biceps while deadlifting.

What do you think? Is this true? Will exercises like rows and chin ups help with dead lifts?

Ups, my english is bad Tongue  I was thinking about biceps injuries.
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    « Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 11:50:43 AM »

    MYTH:
    If you have stronger biceps, you have less chance to tire your biceps while deadlifting.

    What do you think? Is this true? Will exercises like rows and chin ups help with dead lifts?

    I have a question, does your biceps tire when you do deadlifts?
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    « Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 11:58:50 AM »

    Ups. I was thinking about biceps injuries. My biceps dose not get tired after DL.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 12:09:12 PM »

    Ups. I was thinking about biceps injuries. My biceps dose not get tired after DL.


    It's a myth.  Let me correct my statement, it's not true.  (Myth is neither true nor false.  It's something very vague.)

    http://www.gustrength.com/eric-troy:biceps-tears-from-deadlifts
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    « Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 12:17:17 PM »

    Tnx MercNil +rep
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    « Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 12:28:48 PM »

    Tnx MercNil +rep

    Thanks. :3
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    « Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 01:19:27 PM »

    AFAIK It's not the bicep but the bicep tendon that can get torn while doing a mixed grip Deadlift.
    Biceps Tendon Tear -- Deadlift


    As can be shown in the comments/description he did indeed tear a bicep tendon (distal) while Deadlifting.
    So there is a risk, can easily be zero risk by using double overhand grip if your really bothered.
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    « Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 03:06:43 PM »

    Sure there might be other factors, poor posture, internally rotated humeri...but the mixed grip is definitely more risky. Stick to double overhand grip, learn the hook grip, or use straps or hooks if you don't want to take the chance. If you do want to take the chance, make sure you switch hands, and do use it a bit for reps, not just for your max (as your tendons could unprepared with that scenario). Also, do curls  Shocked Shocked
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    « Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 06:07:39 PM »

    Sure there might be other factors, poor posture, internally rotated humeri...but the mixed grip is definitely more risky. Stick to double overhand grip, learn the hook grip, or use straps or hooks if you don't want to take the chance. If you do want to take the chance, make sure you switch hands, and do use it a bit for reps, not just for your max (as your tendons could unprepared with that scenario). Also, do curls  Shocked Shocked
    King Neptune recommends curls? STOP THE PRESSES!

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    « Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 11:39:52 PM »

    The more inflexible your bicep is the easier it can tear.  And yes you can stretch out the bicep.  The 1rm deadlift is an explosive movement.  The tempo is usually 1-0-1 (unless you're really struggling),  You want to see a perfect scenario of flexibility in the muscles and how it can prevent injury?  Look up "Fedor Emelieneko gets slammed".  He walked away with out a neck injury or any problems.  You don't want your hamstring to tear - stretch it.  You don't want to tear your pec - stretch it.  You don't want your rotator cuff to snap like a twig when military pressing - well...for the rotator cuff you'll probably have to do some exercises.  Point is - Stretch!  It's not girly and it will really help you out.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 06:45:03 AM »

    I do some stretching after workout. 
    I don't like curls and I have chin ups and rows in my workouts, so i don't think I need them.
    I don't lift heavy weights (I'm week Cry ) So for now i will stay with double overhand.
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    « Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 03:26:24 PM »

    I do some stretching after workout. 
    I don't like curls and I have chin ups and rows in my workouts, so i don't think I need them.
    I don't lift heavy weights (I'm week Cry ) So for now i will stay with double overhand.
    I do 10 minutes of cardio and 20 minutes of stretching before I work out.  I have never got injured from lifting.  Stretching is worth it!  Before AND after!
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    « Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 03:53:45 PM »

    I do some stretching after workout. 
    I don't like curls and I have chin ups and rows in my workouts, so i don't think I need them.
    I don't lift heavy weights (I'm week Cry ) So for now i will stay with double overhand.
    I do 10 minutes of cardio and 20 minutes of stretching before I work out.  I have never got injured from lifting.  Stretching is worth it!  Before AND after!

    Static stretching before the workout?
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    « Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 03:56:47 PM »

    I do some stretching after workout. 
    I don't like curls and I have chin ups and rows in my workouts, so i don't think I need them.
    I don't lift heavy weights (I'm week Cry ) So for now i will stay with double overhand.
    I do 10 minutes of cardio and 20 minutes of stretching before I work out.  I have never got injured from lifting.  Stretching is worth it!  Before AND after!

    Static stretching before the workout?
    Some of it is static some of it is ballistic.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 04:03:10 PM »

    I do some stretching after workout. 
    I don't like curls and I have chin ups and rows in my workouts, so i don't think I need them.
    I don't lift heavy weights (I'm week Cry ) So for now i will stay with double overhand.
    I do 10 minutes of cardio and 20 minutes of stretching before I work out.  I have never got injured from lifting.  Stretching is worth it!  Before AND after!

    Static stretching before the workout?
    Some of it is static some of it is ballistic.

    OK. There are many coaches and experts arguing against static stretching before a workout (some saying it can, amongst other things, increase injury risk). It's interesting that you have never been injured.
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