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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2011, 07:05:23 AM » |
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I agree with this. BUT, as soon as I feel my CNS is being taxed too heavily or when I plateau and can't do 80-90%, I reload by about 20lbs and increase by albs per session. Haven't reached a plateau yet as its my first time doing RPT. in about 2.5 hours, you will know how I deal with ~90% of my PROJECTED 1 rm (with the knowledge that I can bench 165 X 7 based on an online calculator, which could be wary off, we'll see)
Remember to eat enough. lol I'm good in that area. Im doing IF STRICT recoup. 2800 lower/2600 upper/ 2400 rest days. ~ 2550 or so a day. |
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+++True champions are made when NO ONES watching+++
Goals for November 2011:
Squat: 265 1 rm *success 2/6/11* New goal 285 1 rm
Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5
Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225
Overhead Press: 135 1 rm
Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2011, 07:41:46 AM » |
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I agree with this. BUT, as soon as I feel my CNS is being taxed too heavily or when I plateau and can't do 80-90%, I reload by about 20lbs and increase by albs per session. Haven't reached a plateau yet as its my first time doing RPT. in about 2.5 hours, you will know how I deal with ~90% of my PROJECTED 1 rm (with the knowledge that I can bench 165 X 7 based on an online calculator, which could be wary off, we'll see)
Remember to eat enough. lol I'm good in that area. Im doing IF STRICT recoup. 2800 lower/2600 upper/ 2400 rest days. ~ 2550 or so a day. lol Right away? Probably not if you're not used to working with something close to a 3 RM. If you do something like 165 - 3x3 and move the weight up 5 lbs. every workout, then you probably would be able to pull it off in just a couple weeks.
You have to be careful when working with weight at 90% or over 90% as this will cause the CNS to weaken from working with maximal loads if you do it continuosly for 2-3 weeks. Source? This is agreed upon by experienced powerlifters and it was written in a russian training book, if you want to experience it for yourself you're always welcome. When the CNS weakens your working weight will be slightly lower... Which book? My experience tells me that your CNS gets stronger the more work you do, not immediately but once it's recovered. Same as a muscle, right after you work it's obviously weaker but once it's recovered it's stronger than before. It's called "conditioning", which AFAIK is also a widely accepted concept among experienced powerlifters. It gets more important when you get more advanced. You just can't train with near limit weights all the time. Here we go again... |
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 07:52:40 AM » |
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You see what you've just done, Helmut?
He may be the Roman god of water but he still has feelings, you know?
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 04:00:20 PM » |
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It was a book by some russian coach by the last name of zatriovesky or something like that, it's not like you're going to seek out the book so there is no point in mentioning it, there is a article on t nation stating that working over 90% for up to three weeks will weaken your CNS, Dodo says it in one of his strength articles... You can't "condition" your body to working with maximal weights, neither can olympic lifters accomplish this all the time.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 04:07:12 PM » |
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3 reps x 180 lbs.
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+++True champions are made when NO ONES watching+++
Goals for November 2011:
Squat: 265 1 rm *success 2/6/11* New goal 285 1 rm
Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5
Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225
Overhead Press: 135 1 rm
Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 04:19:48 PM » |
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It was a book by some russian coach by the last name of zatriovesky or something like that, it's not like you're going to seek out the book so there is no point in mentioning it, there is a article on t nation stating that working over 90% for up to three weeks will weaken your CNS, Dodo says it in one of his strength articles... You can't "condition" your body to working with maximal weights, neither can olympic lifters accomplish this all the time.
Vladimir Zatsiorsky. But, really, most people know this. Just ignore him. |
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 08:10:03 AM » |
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I actually have that book, it's the only training book I ever bought because I heard it was good. Sadly I don't understand a word, it's so dry^^ You can't "condition" your body to working with maximal weights, neither can olympic lifters accomplish this all the time. Someone post that article about Olympic lifters' adrenals being gigantic compared to normal people's. I should have bookmarked that, or maybe it was a post on the forum. Anyway, that's some awesome proof right there. I have no idea why I irritate you so much. You might have issues...Personally, I tend to like your posts, except when you're talking to me.  You don't irritate me per se, it's just that threads with the two of us in them tend to turn into "you can only lift so often, OMG" versus "Yes you can, look at Broz OMG" and I think it pisses OP's off to see this happening to their threads. |
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2011, 08:15:26 AM » |
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You don't irritate me per se, it's just that threads with the two of us in them tend to turn into "you can only lift so often, OMG" versus "Yes you can, look at Broz OMG" and I think it pisses OP's off to see this happening to their threads.
Oh yeah? Why can't you keep civil, then? I disagreed with you but never called you a "fool" or anything like it. By the way, what I said was common knowledge, and you could check that since you have the book. On the other hand, what you tend to say in those posts is usually something like: just max out everyday, you'll be fine, everybody else is a pussy... |
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2011, 08:21:07 AM » |
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Neptune, Helmut, chillax OK? If you want to discuss this type of things, PMs are the best way to do it so you won't derail other threads.
And by the way, PMs are not moderated. If you start insulting each other via PM, all you can do is block each other.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2011, 08:31:28 AM » |
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die thread die!! haha
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+++True champions are made when NO ONES watching+++
Goals for November 2011:
Squat: 265 1 rm *success 2/6/11* New goal 285 1 rm
Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5
Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225
Overhead Press: 135 1 rm
Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2012, 03:54:31 PM » |
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If you work up for just a few weeks, getting your body used to lifting with more intensity (1-3 reps instead of 7), you should be able to do 195-200 probably. At my gym there's a 1RM calculation chart and 170x5 puts a 1 RM at 200 lbs, so 165x7 should be about the same.
dont trust 1RM charts too much.. last time i checked the one in my school gym book, i benched 75kg 4x6 & it said my 1RM would be 90kg.. a week or less before i looked on that list i had done 2reps of 95kg just to try it.....  i cant really help on the #1 post but thought i'd comment on this one. |
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2012, 05:42:42 PM » |
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If you work up for just a few weeks, getting your body used to lifting with more intensity (1-3 reps instead of 7), you should be able to do 195-200 probably. At my gym there's a 1RM calculation chart and 170x5 puts a 1 RM at 200 lbs, so 165x7 should be about the same.
dont trust 1RM charts too much.. last time i checked the one in my school gym book, i benched 75kg 4x6 & it said my 1RM would be 90kg.. a week or less before i looked on that list i had done 2reps of 95kg just to try it..... i cant really help on the #1 post but thought i'd comment on this one. Not so sure why this thread was brought back from the dead, especially since that's where it should have stayed, but I'll respond anyway. I know they're not a perfect calulator of 1 RMs, but more an approximation, which is why I used inexact numbers ("about," 195-200, etc.). It depends on the person, really. For me, the number of reps I do quickly drops with increased weight. For example, for bench, my best set has been 160x5 which was pretty easy. Three times after that, I tried 165 and the most I got was 3 hard, grinding reps. Other people, like you, are able to lift heavier and not have that steep decline. |
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Deadlift 350 or 315x3
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2012, 11:10:15 PM » |
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I agree with this. BUT, as soon as I feel my CNS is being taxed too heavily or when I plateau and can't do 80-90%, I reload by about 20lbs and increase by albs per session. Haven't reached a plateau yet as its my first time doing RPT. in about 2.5 hours, you will know how I deal with ~90% of my PROJECTED 1 rm (with the knowledge that I can bench 165 X 7 based on an online calculator, which could be wary off, we'll see)
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