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    « on: December 06, 2011, 03:25:13 PM »
    Well it seems there are flood of information on the net about the PL squat technique. But I can't find a lot of article about the OL style squat.
    So far what I've done is high bar, go as low as possible while keeping back upright. Man, I thought I got it down. Today I was discussing with some guy about how PL style with hip drive, butt stick back might develop your butt more than you might want - and they all ask: isn't that what I've always been doing  Cry. I then pay more attention and find out that yeah, with the way I lean forward I'm putting all the tension to the posterior like a PL and there's no chance I can catch a bar overhead.
    Should I drop back squat and practice on front squat instead to make my quads stronger? Or is there any cues to do the atg squat right?
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    « Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 04:43:13 PM »
    http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/08/olympic-squat-tommy-kono.html

    http://cbass.com/Squats.htm

    :3 Keep up the effort. :3
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    « Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 06:59:20 PM »
    Thanks man
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    « Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 10:59:13 AM »
    Quote from: MercNil on December 06, 2011, 04:43:13 PM
    http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/08/olympic-squat-tommy-kono.html



    Second pic down comparing squats. The "correct" one looks like it would be impossible for most people. You'd need a very long torso. Surely this one is more accurate:

    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts

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    « Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 12:01:03 PM »
    Quote from: joe101 on December 07, 2011, 10:59:13 AM
    Quote from: MercNil on December 06, 2011, 04:43:13 PM
    http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/08/olympic-squat-tommy-kono.html



    Second pic down comparing squats. The "correct" one looks like it would be impossible for most people. You'd need a very long torso. Surely this one is more accurate:

    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts

    (second down)


    It looks like that, but isn't. :3

    That's why the second link comes to aid the first one. :3 http://cbass.com/Squats.htm
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    « Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 12:41:16 PM »
    Well it seems I can sit in the correct bottom position just fine. The problem is to keep the back angle correct the whole up and down movement.
    To be more specific: if I dive straight down my erector tend to loose the tension and lumbar start to round at the bottom, but if I stick my butt back first then it'll pinch the erector muscle and keep the arch even if I go to the bottom. One thing I can do when drop straight down is pushing the knee forward more, my back feels better, but I don't feel the strength to stand back up.
     The rising up part is easier to understand though, since it just feels easier to lift butt up and let the stronger muscle do the work so whatever I do once it get heavy I'll wiggle back to the butt squat.
    Basically I do know (in theory) how it is correctly perform. But I'm looking for some tip (such as "chest up", "sit back", "push through the ground"... for other lifts) to help me remind my body better when actually performing it. (Oh well I wonder if intentionally push the knee forward is the right thing to do - of course still keeping weight on middle foot)
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