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    « on: January 04, 2012, 12:46:06 PM »

    It's just preference. I know some of you like thick waist and hip but I don't.
    I know I'm being greedy.
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    « Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 12:52:01 PM »

    Just not possible?

    But what do you mean by hip? Measured including the gluteus maximus? If so, it will increase. But you wont get big butts. Just stronger and a little bigger.
    What do you mean by waist? Measured at the belly button? You wont grow much there either.
    Or do you mean the "waist" of pants? There you will grow even less Cheesy.
    And if you dont want bigger thighs... there you go - just stop it.

    Unless you take steroids it will take very long that something will grow out of proportion. Even with roids it wont go too fast I guess. And if you are getting to that point you can just stop it Tongue. Or are you at the point where you consider stopping? If not, just squat.

    Or you can do just singles - so it will be more CNS than muscles. So the muscles dont need to grow Wink. Or... just eat below or around TDEE. So you body does not get the material to grow (wouldnt recommend it though Tongue).
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    « Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 01:08:49 PM »

    Why do you want to be able to lift heavier?
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    « Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 01:16:47 PM »

    Why do you want to be able to lift heavier?
    I said that I'm being greedy. I want to be stronger, and squat heavier is 50% of being stronger. But then there are some people compliment about my V-shaped and how I "look" big since I have small hip and waist - I don't want to lose that.
    Big thighs are just fine, I don't think my thigh is big enough yet to worry about. But all my old pants seem to be tight around the butt already.
    I know front squat work my rear less, but then I won't be as strong just doing front squat?
    Can I get stronger by doing really low volume? Like just do 3RM once a week and that's it for squat?
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    « Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 01:22:54 PM »

    Yeah just reduce your volume. I think that should work.
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    « Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 01:25:37 PM »

    Just not possible?

    But what do you mean by hip? Measured including the gluteus maximus? If so, it will increase. But you wont get big butts. Just stronger and a little bigger.
    What do you mean by waist? Measured at the belly button? You wont grow much there either.
    Or do you mean the "waist" of pants? There you will grow even less Cheesy.
    And if you dont want bigger thighs... there you go - just stop it.

    Unless you take steroids it will take very long that something will grow out of proportion. Even with roids it wont go too fast I guess. And if you are getting to that point you can just stop it Tongue. Or are you at the point where you consider stopping? If not, just squat.

    Or you can do just singles - so it will be more CNS than muscles. So the muscles dont need to grow Wink. Or... just eat below or around TDEE. So you body does not get the material to grow (wouldnt recommend it though Tongue).
    "won't grow much"...mmm I'm wondering about that. If you can find an example of someone Squatting 300lbs or more with slender waist lol.
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    « Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 01:45:01 PM »

    Why do you want to be able to lift heavier?
    I said that I'm being greedy. I want to be stronger, and squat heavier is 50% of being stronger. But then there are some people compliment about my V-shaped and how I "look" big since I have small hip and waist - I don't want to lose that.
    Big thighs are just fine, I don't think my thigh is big enough yet to worry about. But all my old pants seem to be tight around the butt already.
    I know front squat work my rear less, but then I won't be as strong just doing front squat?
    Can I get stronger by doing really low volume? Like just do 3RM once a week and that's it for squat?
    But whats the reason if you don't want to look bigger. I mean are you in a sport or want to lift competitively? I don't see why you would want to lift heavier if you dont want to look bigger or be strong for a sport lol.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 03:49:16 PM »

    Why do you want to be able to lift heavier?
    I said that I'm being greedy. I want to be stronger, and squat heavier is 50% of being stronger. But then there are some people compliment about my V-shaped and how I "look" big since I have small hip and waist - I don't want to lose that.
    Big thighs are just fine, I don't think my thigh is big enough yet to worry about. But all my old pants seem to be tight around the butt already.
    I know front squat work my rear less, but then I won't be as strong just doing front squat?
    Can I get stronger by doing really low volume? Like just do 3RM once a week and that's it for squat?
    But whats the reason if you don't want to look bigger. I mean are you in a sport or want to lift competitively? I don't see why you would want to lift heavier if you dont want to look bigger or be strong for a sport lol.
    I know what you mean, I once think so too. It all boils down to ego perhaps. No I'm not talking about being strong to show off, but being strong just so I know that I am strong (and not inferior). You know the saying "because out there a girl is warming up with your max". There are limit, however, like I wouldn't risk it all for a lift just for the sake of feeling great, or getting too heavy if it will blow off my proportion. There, as long as there's not too much risk, I want to go heavier.
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    « Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 03:59:45 PM »

    Nothing wrong with that lifting is a superb hobby
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    « Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 04:16:54 PM »

    Well, the obvious answer is low rep high weight, but even then your thighs and hips will get bigger, just very slowly.  I haven't gained more than an inch in my legs in a few months, but my squat went up like 70 lbs or so.  Triples, doubles, singles, etc. 
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    « Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 05:19:01 PM »

    Well, the obvious answer is low rep high weight, but even then your thighs and hips will get bigger, just very slowly.  I haven't gained more than an inch in my legs in a few months, but my squat went up like 70 lbs or so.  Triples, doubles, singles, etc. 
    No but I'm asking does Squatting once a week (1-2 low rep set) work? It's ok if it's slow, I'm just thinking there won't be any strength gain at all.
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    « Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 05:27:16 PM »

    Squatting once a week with that low volume won't do you good.  You'd have to do it more frequently, and you'd need assistance work. 
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    « Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 11:27:49 PM »

    "won't grow much"...mmm I'm wondering about that. If you can find an example of someone Squatting 300lbs or more with slender waist lol.


    According to wikipedia Jay Cutler has a waist of 34inch/86cm. I'm sure he can squat that 300lbs, even though he is not famous for squatting ^^. Anyhow, my waist is 84cm. And I'm sure I cant squat as much as he can. Even though my estimated 1RM is about 300lbs.
    I would not expect for myself to get a much bigger waist than Jay, who trains exclusively for size/looks - even though I'm taller than he is.

    Now it depends on what you define as slender Wink. If you would see my in real life, I could fit in that definition of some people - not sure about yours.

    The other body parts is a different story.

    Regarding pants Cheesy: I myself was in need to buy new pants recently (because of squats I guess Wink). My old pants stop fitting at my thighs. They felt compressed Cheesy. And I will soon have the same "problem" with the thighs again I guess.

    PS: You should change your profile pic - this is why I came up with "dont worry". In your progress diary the pictures look different Wink. Congratulations btw ^^.
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    « Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 03:06:30 AM »

    Why do you want to be able to lift heavier?
    I said that I'm being greedy. I want to be stronger, and squat heavier is 50% of being stronger. But then there are some people compliment about my V-shaped and how I "look" big since I have small hip and waist - I don't want to lose that.
    Big thighs are just fine, I don't think my thigh is big enough yet to worry about. But all my old pants seem to be tight around the butt already.
    I know front squat work my rear less, but then I won't be as strong just doing front squat?
    Can I get stronger by doing really low volume? Like just do 3RM once a week and that's it for squat?



    Well, your upperbody grows too, so it doesnt mean your v-shape is going anywhere.
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    « Reply #14 on: January 05, 2012, 03:30:34 AM »

    It's just preference. I know some of you like thick waist and hip but I don't.
    I know I'm being greedy.
    Huh?  The waist decreases as the fat takes up more room and this will be replaced by muscle = decreasing the size of waist (not but much)
    The bone dinsity will increase.
    Your glutes will get bigger (again not much) but thats not your waist. Your waist is above your illiac crest (hip bone)
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