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« on: December 07, 2011, 05:47:26 PM »

I want to get involved with martial arts clubs in my uni.  Currently there is BJJ and MMA, they train on alternating days but they train together because ultimately MMA has many aspects of BJJ. 

Anyways, im currently training 4 DAW upper/lower.  This is definitely going to change with the high intensity of the two martial arts.  Actually, ive been to BJJ and its pretty chill, but the MMA is freakin intense.  I need help constructing a new routine.  It will be 3 days, and I wanna hit my body HARD on two days, light one day, heres the schedule

Monday - Train weights + BJJ
Heavy squats (RPT style)
Heavy Bench
Heavy P. Rows
heavy bench dips

T: MMA (No weights)

W: (no martial arts) Heavy Deadlift day
Deads (semi sumo or conventional): RPT style
Chinups (RPT style)
OHP
possibly some extra hamstring work

Thursday: BJJ

Friday: Weights + MMA

Light Bench
Light Squat
Light P rows
+ tricep iso work
possibly a push press

please let me know what you guys think of this routine!  your help would be greatly appreciated

Im also planning deloads on the heavy days every 3 weeks or so (whenever my body tells me actually)

thanks a lot!
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Goals for November 2011:
Squat: 265 1 rm *success 2/6/11* New goal 285 1 rm

Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5

Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225

Overhead Press: 135 1 rm

Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 07:52:49 AM »

actually, im liking this routine better, may end up doing this instead

Monday (will train BJJ this day at 5-7pm)
Barbell Benchpress
2 warmup sets 60%,80%
2 active sets 4-6 reps
try to add atleast 2 pounds each training

Overhead press
2x active sets

Weighted dips
2x sets 4-6 reps max weight
2x BW

Triceps Isolation
3x sets


Wednesday (no martial arts)
Deads
warmup 2 sets 60%,80%
2 active sets 4-6 reps
try to add atleast 2 pounds each training

Chins
1 set BW warmup
2 active sets 4-6 weighted
2BW sets after

Pendlay rows
2x sets not RPT

Biceps Isolation
2x sets

Thursday (no weights BJJ 2 hrs)

Friday (MMA 5-7 pm)
Squats
warmup 2 sets 60%,80%
2 active sets 4-6 reps
try to add atleast 2 pounds each training


Calves
3x Sets

Thoughts anyone?
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Goals for November 2011:
Squat: 265 1 rm *success 2/6/11* New goal 285 1 rm

Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5

Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225

Overhead Press: 135 1 rm

Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 01:51:14 PM »

Are you trying to get a routine that complements your martial arts, or are you bodybuilding and just happen to be involved in martial arts?
If you want to complement it (which I'll just assume is what you want), I'd prefer the first routine since it seems to be more strength dominant (FBW instead of 3-day split) which I think will help more with MMA/BJJ. I don't know anything about RPT, so unfortunately I can't comment on its effectiveness at benefitting MA. It may be beneficial to have a dynamic effort day to help with explosiveness, but that's up to you (maybe treat light day as dynamic effort?).
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 06:19:34 PM »

Are you trying to get a routine that complements your martial arts, or are you bodybuilding and just happen to be involved in martial arts?
If you want to complement it (which I'll just assume is what you want), I'd prefer the first routine since it seems to be more strength dominant (FBW instead of 3-day split) which I think will help more with MMA/BJJ. I don't know anything about RPT, so unfortunately I can't comment on its effectiveness at benefitting MA. It may be beneficial to have a dynamic effort day to help with explosiveness, but that's up to you (maybe treat light day as dynamic effort?).

hey, thanks for responding.

Im actually just getting involved in MMA.  I want strength but I ofc want aesthetics so im geared towards both.  guess im just gna have to do the good ol fashioned " if it works for you do it, if not, change it"
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Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5

Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225

Overhead Press: 135 1 rm

Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 01:46:16 PM »

Yeah, that's pretty much what you have to do. Looking at it again, you have more pressing than pulling in the first one, so maybe add just a couple sets of db rows (or Kroc rows if you want to improve your grip) to one of the days just to even it out a bit.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 12:27:59 PM »

    When you say powerlifting, do you mean for squats;
    High stance barely parellel etc?

    I don't think that sort of movement has as much carry over (to something like mma) than a high bar full squat.
    Powerlifting is all about mechanical advantage, where as what you want to do is actual proper strength training.
    Such as strongman lifts, which will build ALOT of functional strength along with providing great conditioning too depending on how you do them.
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    « Reply #6 on: December 11, 2011, 05:01:45 AM »

    Also;

    Louie Simmons Westside Barbell Training For Fighters.


    Louie Simmons is basically saying, whatever your weak points are, wether it be as a fighter or whatever, work on that weak point.
    So if you feel your strong, and explosive, but after 1 round your pooped, focus on your conitioning; probably such as the strongman lifts I mentioned before.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 06:39:59 AM »

    yea dude Im gna make the switch to ATG squats high bar.  Im just trying to find the sweet spot to where I can go deep enough.  anyway, I need some help with a good conditioning routine. 
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    Goals for November 2011:
    Squat: 265 1 rm *success 2/6/11* New goal 285 1 rm

    Deadlift: 405 1 rm, Current 300 x 5

    Bench: 195 1 rm *2//9/11 New Current 1 rm = 200 New Goal = 225

    Overhead Press: 135 1 rm

    Row: 175 x 5 (strict)
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