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« on: December 05, 2011, 08:51:49 AM »

So I heard about this program on Benchfordeath's thread and I got interested. I've been doing quite low volume work for a while now just focusing on increasing my 1RM's. The progress has slowed down and I'm thinking of starting a new program with high volume.

I looked up Sheiko program #29 which apparently is for beginners/ anyone who hasn't done a full Sheiko program before. It seems to have ALOT of volume but I'm really keen on trying it out. On the first day it tells you to first do Bench press then Squat and then Bench press again, I thought this was a bit weird but I guess the purpose is to rest/cool down in between. Moving on. Deadlifting to knees, never heard of this before. Sure I've heard of deadlifting from a deficit but not this. I'm wondering if this could be replaced by deadlifting from a deficit? Also, when it says to use i.e. 80% of your 1RM for deadlifts of pins, does it mean to use 80% of your normal deadlift max or your deadlift of pins max?

That is all ... for now Smiley
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    « Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 11:47:14 AM »

    Deadlift to knees is the first phase of deadlifts - it's a deadlifts partial.

    Deadlift deficit is standing upright and allowing the weight to stretch your back. :3

    Deadlift on pins - that means where you rest the bar on the pins of the squat rack from knee up or a little lower.  It's easier to pull because you're not required to pull as low as from the floor. :3 (rack pull deadlift)

    Keep us posted. :3
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    « Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 11:58:00 AM »

    I think it's 90% of your DL max. 
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    « Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 12:23:03 PM »

    http://www.elitefts.com/sheiko/

    Having read the program, deadlift from pins doesn't mean the percentage meant when using pins, but your deadlifts itself. :3  Ground to knee is one phase.  pins(knee) to hips is second phase of a deadlift.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 12:52:02 PM »

    Never heard of the routine before bfd's thread either. Deadlifts to knees sound like halting deadlifts. Coincidentally, rippetoe has a video on them here if you're interested.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 11:37:08 PM »

    http://www.elitefts.com/sheiko/

    Having read the program, deadlift from pins doesn't mean the percentage meant when using pins, but your deadlifts itself. :3  Ground to knee is one phase.  pins(knee) to hips is second phase of a deadlift.


    Yeah makes sense now Tongue

    Never heard of the routine before bfd's thread either. Deadlifts to knees sound like halting deadlifts. Coincidentally, rippetoe has a video on them here if you're interested.


    Thanks for the link.

    Well I guess I'm going to start the program next week then Smiley
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