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« on: September 25, 2011, 07:06:35 PM » |
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I want to start SL 5x5 but i dont get how people put on 20 pounds in 4 months from this routine. So you only do these 3 or 4 exercises and get muscle mass? Also i cant spend the first 4 weeks only doing light weights because i need to get big by a certain day, can i just jump in with what i can do?
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Goals: Bench 130x5 reps or more [X]
Dumbbell Bench 60 each hand, 6 reps or more [ ] Current 55x 6-9 reps
Weigh 145 [ ]
100 pound shrugs [ ] Current 85x 10 rep
Dips x 45lb weight 10 reps [ ] Curre
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 07:15:26 PM » |
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Also i cant spend the first 4 weeks only doing light weights because i need to get big by a certain day, can i just jump in with what i can do?
Do the routine as it's designed. As for the bolded statement, good luck with that. It won't happen no matter what routine you do. You have to put hard work in the gym and building muscle is a slow process. Read around the forum, you've got a lot to learn. http://www.askscooby.com/bulking-up-and-gaining-muscle/new-bulking-up-faq/ |
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 07:21:23 PM » |
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I have to get big by February not it like 3 weeks.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 07:33:47 PM » |
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You don't have to be big by February. Start SL, it's a great program and it will add some serious muscle onto you. But seriously, this impatience BS won't help you, it can only hinder you, so abandon it and do things intelligently.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 07:37:22 PM » |
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Ok, i will start off slowly like they say. But Sl is 3x a week. Can i do SL in the gym. But during school weight lifting class just stick to benchpresses? Or i cant do any other exercise other than SL?
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Age: 14
Weight: 136
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Goals: Bench 130x5 reps or more [X]
Dumbbell Bench 60 each hand, 6 reps or more [ ] Current 55x 6-9 reps
Weigh 145 [ ]
100 pound shrugs [ ] Current 85x 10 rep
Dips x 45lb weight 10 reps [ ] Curre
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 07:54:34 PM » |
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Why on earth would you need to be big by February? And I wouldn't advice you to do any extra work in the gym along SL, you can do it during weightlifting class as well.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 08:35:11 PM » |
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So if i cant do it in the gym and should do it during weight training class, my gym membership would be totally pointless. Can i do it twice a day, during my weight class with moderate to low weights so i can do 10 reps, and during the gym higher weights that i can do 5 reps on
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 08:37:34 PM » |
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No, that would be a bad idea. It would quickly lead to some over-use issues and increase your likelihood of plateauing, which is what the whole program is designed to avoid.
Do your workouts at the gym, or do them in weight training class and cancel your gym membership. I don't understand why you decided to participate in both if you're worried about losing the effectiveness of one or the other.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 10:06:33 PM » |
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If you are too excited, then start SL 5x5 with 50% of your 5RM.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 07:09:26 AM » |
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No! Just no, to everything. You dont HAVE to get big by february. You just want to. What happens if you dont get to a certain size by february? Dont do extra work at the school gym or two sessions a day. If you are going to do the program then just do it and dont mess with it in ANY way. Find your starting weight the starting strength way if you are really that impatient. http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#The_First_Workout |
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 11:36:41 AM » |
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Alright, form now on im doing all my workouts at the gym. My school doesnt have a squat stand, only the machine with the hooks (smith machine) for bench/squats whatever u can do on it. And deadlifting isnt encouraged.
The first 4 weeks i have to follow the routine A-B-A......B-A-B......A-B-A.......B-A-B with lower weights so i can get used to the form and prepare myself for higher weight for later on.
What weights do they mean by lower weight? should i put weight so i can do 8-10 reps? or 10-15? does anyone know?
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100 pound shrugs [ ] Current 85x 10 rep
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 11:40:22 AM » |
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Didnt you read the link i posted? Add weight to an empty until the bar slows or until your form starts to alter. You are starting well with in your means but still enough to cause growth etc.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 11:43:00 AM » |
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Alright, form now on im doing all my workouts at the gym. My school doesnt have a squat stand, only the machine with the hooks (smith machine) for bench/squats whatever u can do on it. And deadlifting isnt encouraged.
The first 4 weeks i have to follow the routine A-B-A......B-A-B......A-B-A.......B-A-B with lower weights so i can get used to the form and prepare myself for higher weight for later on.
What weights do they mean by lower weight? should i put weight so i can do 8-10 reps? or 10-15? does anyone know?
It is not called 5x5 for no reason. You do 5 sets with 5 repetitions each. It doesn't matter if you could do more, the weights are increased during a long period of time until it will get difficult for you to make those 5 sets with 5 reps. |
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Progress diary: http://tinyurl.com/cf8hl2vGoals: - Squats 1,25x BW [X]
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- Press 0,7x BW [X]
- Deadlift 1,5x BW [X]
- Barbell row 1x BW [X]
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 11:51:16 AM » |
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What i understood from your link was i add weight to teh empty bar until my form is altered (changed) and i still do 5x5 but the 5 reps wont be my max reps. I should just do 5 reps even though i can do more. After my 4th week i will put on more weight and do 5 reps. Correct me if im wrong
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Age: 14
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Goals: Bench 130x5 reps or more [X]
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Weigh 145 [ ]
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 11:59:15 AM » |
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Why would you have to wait til the 4th week to add weight?
Anyway, even if you start with the empty bar for the first session like SL recommends, by adding 10lbs per workout (as opposed to the 5lbs recommended) your lifts would still be going up pretty fast. It would be 120lbs on your squat in a month and 60lbs on everything else..that is not progress to turn your nose up at.
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