What this forum isn't....

[Myschly]

Don't worry, we have ways to make exceptions...

... I like where this is going... *nervous laughter* .... help, whammy?

[ozmuz]

G`day, hit the link..habit..famous words from a good friend,


`Its a start`  ...Dread 2010

50 post can be accumulated in a day or two, this whole site is orientated to encourage as much posting as one can..gnome
In reallity a beginner does not sense the trie feelings and understanding of exercise for maybe at least 6 months, they may just start to get a little M2M. So many here do the beginner program then jump to the next within weeks cause they think its easy without thinkung, then wonder why there are many `my xxxx hurts, why.
If when joining there was a compulsory *beginner/intermediate/advanced level, the mods and the board would know the expertise needed for that person. eg: start *beginner, limited to non advanced forms, upgraded in 6 months or whatever 3, 4 ??..
I realise its more work but less movement and a little tidier..my 02 cheers all

[greierusu1]

good ideas in all but say a 28yo joins here and has been working out for years (so hes considered advaced)  then he wouldnt be able to post here becuase he hasnt been here long enough. all i can suggest to do is add the little chaptch (the thing wehre u have to enter the txt from the picture) and with a big and clear note under the write here box saying the rule of posting in advanced?

[austinj2068]

even in the bulking up forum half of the posts i answer include a link to a video or a stickied post that already answers their question. i want to help but i get bored of reading the same stuff over again. perhaps we should make new users read through the entire excellent postings section and take a quiz at the end to post anything at all. unfortunately that would be very tedious and discouraging to them... then again it would relieve some of the tediousness put on us from answering the same questions over and over.. and over and over. and over.....

[Uglok]

good ideas in all but say a 28yo joins here and has been working out for years (so hes considered advaced)  then he wouldnt be able to post here becuase he hasnt been here long enough. all i can suggest to do is add the little chaptch (the thing wehre u have to enter the txt from the picture) and with a big and clear note under the write here box saying the rule of posting in advanced?

Not a problem. He'd post it in the normal bulking up and gaining muscle board, and then if a moderator recognised it as advanced (which i'm sure they can judge for themselves), they will be able to move the thread as appropriate. Being in a different board doesn't mean it will get (more/less) or (higher/quality) answers!! Which is the whole point for why people shouldn't post in this board unless necessary in the first place.

[Myschly]

even in the bulking up forum half of the posts i answer include a link to a video or a stickied post that already answers their question. i want to help but i get bored of reading the same stuff over again. perhaps we should make new users read through the entire excellent postings section and take a quiz at the end to post anything at all. unfortunately that would be very tedious and discouraging to them... then again it would relieve some of the tediousness put on us from answering the same questions over and over.. and over and over. and over.....

Yeah I know the feeling. The best thing would be for a beginners first say, 5 threads, if it checked for words like deadlift, squats, overtraining, pullups, and then have a suggestion-box like when others have posted in the thread while you wrote your reply, saying "have you checked these threads?". I'm guessing that's not possible to implement, dream on, right?

Maybe a good thing could be to have a thing for newly registered members to get a sort of "before you post in the forum" FAQ-thingy.

[Chili]

good ideas in all but say a 28yo joins here and has been working out for years (so hes considered advaced)  then he wouldnt be able to post here becuase he hasnt been here long enough. all i can suggest to do is add the little chaptch (the thing wehre u have to enter the txt from the picture) and with a big and clear note under the write here box saying the rule of posting in advanced?

Not a problem. He'd post it in the normal bulking up and gaining muscle board, and then if a moderator recognised it as advanced (which i'm sure they can judge for themselves), they will be able to move the thread as appropriate. Being in a different board doesn't mean it will get (more/less) or (higher/quality) answers!! Which is the whole point for why people shouldn't post in this board unless necessary in the first place.

The problem with this is, that he won't be able to post awknowledging the answers to his original question or join in further on the discussion if we moved their question to the advanced board.

[Uglok]

good ideas in all but say a 28yo joins here and has been working out for years (so hes considered advaced)  then he wouldnt be able to post here becuase he hasnt been here long enough. all i can suggest to do is add the little chaptch (the thing wehre u have to enter the txt from the picture) and with a big and clear note under the write here box saying the rule of posting in advanced?

Not a problem. He'd post it in the normal bulking up and gaining muscle board, and then if a moderator recognised it as advanced (which i'm sure they can judge for themselves), they will be able to move the thread as appropriate. Being in a different board doesn't mean it will get (more/less) or (higher/quality) answers!! Which is the whole point for why people shouldn't post in this board unless necessary in the first place.

The problem with this is, that he won't be able to post awknowledging the answers to his original question or join in further on the discussion if we moved their question to the advanced board.

Hence why the limit should prevent users from starting a new thread in this board rather than on posting at all, as I suggested in my first post!

[Evilcyber]

The way it now is is all the board software is capable of.

[austinj2068]

The way it now is is all the board software is capable of.

gentlemen, we are on the edge of a global catastrophe.

[vertigo66]

I think this post should be moved ... Joking

Good news, Applying Gnomes can no longer post in this thread. Hopefully this should keep this board a bit cleaner.

Spot on dread, it needed saying. It was driving me crazy. All i could find was "rate my routine"(moved)

[db2460]

We now restricted access to this forum to people with at least 50 posts, as the majority of moved postings came from new users.

Is there a way to make the forum readable, but not writable, for those that have not met requirements?  The reason I ask this is that shutting out a whole section as inaccessible makes information not available to newcomers.  Why should a newcomer not be able to read discussions?  Another reason for making it readable is that the rationale for requiring certain post count filters out people that may be so new that they do not know the distinction between normal and advanced sections.  What better way to have people understand than to allow them to spend the time to read the threads in each and get a feel for difference between the two before they are allowed to post to advanced.  If they've never seen information in advanced, the very first day they get access to it, they may very well just post to it without having digested any of the material or really know what the different sections are about.

Another suggestion, perhaps instead of post count, is there a way to restrict by rep power?  Post count anyone can inflate.  I can go to off-topic, post 50 posts in the same day, then come right back.  Wouldn't it make more sense to allow posting to the advanced be limited to those who have been vested by the community as those who are helpful and/or knowledgeable?

Are these capabilities not available in the software?

[Evilcyber]

We now restricted access to this forum to people with at least 50 posts, as the majority of moved postings came from new users.

Is there a way to make the forum readable, but not writable, for those that have not met requirements?  The reason I ask this is that shutting out a whole section as inaccessible makes information not available to newcomers.  Why should a newcomer not be able to read discussions?  Another reason for making it readable is that the rationale for requiring certain post count filters out people that may be so new that they do not know the distinction between normal and advanced sections.  What better way to have people understand than to allow them to spend the time to read the threads in each and get a feel for difference between the two before they are allowed to post to advanced.  If they've never seen information in advanced, the very first day they get access to it, they may very well just post to it without having digested any of the material or really know what the different sections are about.

Another suggestion, perhaps instead of post count, is there a way to restrict by rep power?  Post count anyone can inflate.  I can go to off-topic, post 50 posts in the same day, then come right back.  Wouldn't it make more sense to allow posting to the advanced be limited to those who have been vested by the community as those who are helpful and/or knowledgeable?

Are these capabilities not available in the software?

It is readable for them as long as they aren't logged in. Not ideal, I know.

And unfortunately we also can't make access dependent on reputation. The whole reputation system is an extension to the original software that we individually installed.

[Myschly]

Them not being able to read it is a good thing IMO. This way they don't read an advanced routine (even though it might say "only for advanced"), and they focus more on the stickies on the bulking up-forum? Because tbh, how many guys don't post threads upon threads where the answer is they do too much for their skill level?

[RTalons]

In my experience with the internet and forum sites in general, a shockingly high number of people ignore stickies and post their question without ever reading anything.

When I first found this forum I went right to the excellent posts section, and was pleasantly surprised to see one (learned to make a sad, but functional pullup setup from 2 kitchen chairs )

Limiting posting here to people with so many posts already is a start.  I know lots may just pad their post count in off topic to get in, but hopefully at least some of them will look for people to give useful advice to first.