Neutralia
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« on: February 02, 2012, 08:19:53 AM » |
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Hi. I'm having trouble getting a good work out for my abs. I'm 22, skinny, weigh about 145pounds. I've been doing ab work outs for less than a year it seems, not intensely though. But I'm trying to pick up on that area. And recently I've been trying this one of Scoobys workouts: Killer Ab WorkoutHowever I'm not really feeling the effect. Every time I watch these kinds of exercises they say you should be dead by the end of them and what not. For example with Scoobys killer ab workout. I'll feel it maybe on the first set. But from the 2nd to 5th It's almost like it's not affecting my abs anymore. Is this normal? I use weight behind my head, and I'm pretty sure I've got proper form I'm not using any other part of my body and I've rechecked that. But after that first set it's like I can do 30 crunches without getting that burn in my stomach. And I could probably keep going. The only thing that tires out is my arms from holding on to the weight for so long. Doesn't feel like I'm working my abs, just wasting time. I don't know whether this is normal or not. It feels like the longer the ab exercise the easier it gets. Doesn't seem right to me haha. But maybe someone can tell me what I might be doing wrong. I don't have an insane six pack or anything. So it seems strange to think that these exercises aren't enough. |
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Anton
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 08:31:46 AM » |
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I've never found crunches much good at developing my abs actually, except for at the start of my fitness journey. I prefer letting the big compound lifts make for the most of my ab training since they work hard during those exercises in order to provide stability. For additional ab work, I like hanging leg raises and planks.
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Cyanide
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 08:49:44 AM » |
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I completely agree with Anton on this one. Most of my abdominal gains has come from squats, deadlifts, presses and other compound movements.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 08:52:09 AM » |
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I had similar problem . Working on perfect form was solution . Most important things for me was to do crunches very slowly and to squeeze my ab muscles .
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 08:56:42 AM » |
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As others have said, focus on increasing the poundage on your heavy compounds (squats, deadlifts, presses) and your abs will increase massively. Crunches should only be used as an accessory exercise, although even then I prefer hanging leg raises. Alone they will do little for your ab mass.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 09:18:14 AM » |
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Yeah, do those big compounds, they will help the most. I dont really like hanging leg raises, only ab-exercises i do(apart from the compounds) is weighted sit-ups on this incline sit-up bench. If your doing like normal crunches even with a weight behind your head, im not surprised your not feeling anything. I could do endless reps of those even while weighted, as you seem to be able to do too. Take high enough weight that you can only do like 8-12 reps if you want to do those crunches still.
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MercNil
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 09:25:33 AM » |
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Hi. I'm having trouble getting a good work out for my abs. I'm 22, skinny, weigh about 145pounds. I've been doing ab work outs for less than a year it seems, not intensely though. But I'm trying to pick up on that area. And recently I've been trying this one of Scoobys workouts: Killer Ab WorkoutHowever I'm not really feeling the effect. Every time I watch these kinds of exercises they say you should be dead by the end of them and what not. For example with Scoobys killer ab workout. I'll feel it maybe on the first set. But from the 2nd to 5th It's almost like it's not affecting my abs anymore. Is this normal? I use weight behind my head, and I'm pretty sure I've got proper form I'm not using any other part of my body and I've rechecked that. But after that first set it's like I can do 30 crunches without getting that burn in my stomach. And I could probably keep going. The only thing that tires out is my arms from holding on to the weight for so long. Doesn't feel like I'm working my abs, just wasting time. I don't know whether this is normal or not. It feels like the longer the ab exercise the easier it gets. Doesn't seem right to me haha. But maybe someone can tell me what I might be doing wrong. I don't have an insane six pack or anything. So it seems strange to think that these exercises aren't enough. Abs are made in the kitchen.  |
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Goose2011
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 09:28:55 AM » |
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Then your form is wrong. The goal is to squeeze your abs and make them contract. Try to forget about the sitting up part focus on squeexing your abs and making them work.
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magician27
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 09:55:04 AM » |
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use weight plate behind your head.. abs are muscle like every other muscle in your body . after a point bodyweight wont be enough so you will have to train them at range 10-15 with resistance. my ab muscle got really big this way. what i do cruches with weight , when i cant do more i drop weight keep going with bodyweight then after finishhing with planks. i do this dropset then do some leg raise and its enough. also determine your bodyfat % . you wont see abs until you go below 10-11% my roommate is also skinny but he has small belly. its all about lean body mass.
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Neutralia
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 10:30:23 AM » |
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Thanks a lot for the replies everyone. I know I'm not crazy now or the only one that experienced this haha. As for the abs in the kitchen thing, I really don't have much fat on me. I struggle to put on mass so I don't want to get any leaner. Here's a photo of me so you can see my body type: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/undertheblade/2012-02-02_19-09-49_846.jpgWhen everyone talks about squats, deadlifts and presses I'm wondering is this really vital to getting abs? I understand how it's contributing. But I can't say I do much of the three besides presses whenever I have the opportunity. I guess I just didn't know they were this essential. I figured ab work outs were the focus point, after body fat of course. I'll try working on my form some more when doing the ab workouts. The weight just doesn't seem to change anything for me apart from my first set. After that it's like I'm working out my arms, except not really cause I'm just tiring them out by hanging on to this weight. I can't seem to get into that 10-15 or 8-12 rep zone. I get to like 20-25 and my stomach feels fine and I can push to 30 only then its either my arms or body getting tired from bicycles for example. Frustrating. I'd like to try hanging leg raises as well as deadlifts and all that but I simply can't I'm on the move too much. I'm looking for strictly ab related work outs I guess since these don't seem to be cutting it. The only thing that kicks my butt is planks. |
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Goose2011
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 10:46:22 AM » |
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Thanks a lot for the replies everyone. I know I'm not crazy now or the only one that experienced this haha. As for the abs in the kitchen thing, I really don't have much fat on me. I struggle to put on mass so I don't want to get any leaner. Here's a photo of me so you can see my body type: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/undertheblade/2012-02-02_19-09-49_846.jpgWhen everyone talks about squats, deadlifts and presses I'm wondering is this really vital to getting abs? I understand how it's contributing. But I can't say I do much of the three besides presses whenever I have the opportunity. I guess I just didn't know they were this essential. I figured ab work outs were the focus point, after body fat of course. I'll try working on my form some more when doing the ab workouts. The weight just doesn't seem to change anything for me apart from my first set. After that it's like I'm working out my arms, except not really cause I'm just tiring them out by hanging on to this weight. I can't seem to get into that 10-15 or 8-12 rep zone. I get to like 20-25 and my stomach feels fine and I can push to 30 only then its either my arms or body getting tired from bicycles for example. Frustrating. I'd like to try hanging leg raises as well as deadlifts and all that but I simply can't I'm on the move too much. I'm looking for strictly ab related work outs I guess since these don't seem to be cutting it. The only thing that kicks my butt is planks. If you can post a vid of you doing these exercises and we can further help. Squats and deads are not viatl in getting abs. another ab exercise is lay on your back with your feet extended in the air crunch up and try and touch your toes. doyou have a swiss ball?. if so put your feet on the ball and extend out as if to do a push up. Roll the ball with your legs towards your chest ( reverse crunch ) with this exercise you want to have a slight upward bend in your back. |
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MercNil
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 10:47:45 AM » |
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Thanks a lot for the replies everyone. I know I'm not crazy now or the only one that experienced this haha. As for the abs in the kitchen thing, I really don't have much fat on me. I struggle to put on mass so I don't want to get any leaner. Here's a photo of me so you can see my body type: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/undertheblade/2012-02-02_19-09-49_846.jpgWhen everyone talks about squats, deadlifts and presses I'm wondering is this really vital to getting abs? I understand how it's contributing. But I can't say I do much of the three besides presses whenever I have the opportunity. I guess I just didn't know they were this essential. I figured ab work outs were the focus point, after body fat of course. I'll try working on my form some more when doing the ab workouts. The weight just doesn't seem to change anything for me apart from my first set. After that it's like I'm working out my arms, except not really cause I'm just tiring them out by hanging on to this weight. I can't seem to get into that 10-15 or 8-12 rep zone. I get to like 20-25 and my stomach feels fine and I can push to 30 only then its either my arms or body getting tired from bicycles for example. Frustrating. I'd like to try hanging leg raises as well as deadlifts and all that but I simply can't I'm on the move too much. I'm looking for strictly ab related work outs I guess since these don't seem to be cutting it. The only thing that kicks my butt is planks. You're thin. And your abs are showing. What's the problem? :3 Want to look like a stick figure? May be it's time to build some muscle, man. :9 |
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Neutralia
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 11:01:42 AM » |
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Thanks a lot for the replies everyone. I know I'm not crazy now or the only one that experienced this haha. As for the abs in the kitchen thing, I really don't have much fat on me. I struggle to put on mass so I don't want to get any leaner. Here's a photo of me so you can see my body type: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/undertheblade/2012-02-02_19-09-49_846.jpgWhen everyone talks about squats, deadlifts and presses I'm wondering is this really vital to getting abs? I understand how it's contributing. But I can't say I do much of the three besides presses whenever I have the opportunity. I guess I just didn't know they were this essential. I figured ab work outs were the focus point, after body fat of course. I'll try working on my form some more when doing the ab workouts. The weight just doesn't seem to change anything for me apart from my first set. After that it's like I'm working out my arms, except not really cause I'm just tiring them out by hanging on to this weight. I can't seem to get into that 10-15 or 8-12 rep zone. I get to like 20-25 and my stomach feels fine and I can push to 30 only then its either my arms or body getting tired from bicycles for example. Frustrating. I'd like to try hanging leg raises as well as deadlifts and all that but I simply can't I'm on the move too much. I'm looking for strictly ab related work outs I guess since these don't seem to be cutting it. The only thing that kicks my butt is planks. You're thin. And your abs are showing. What's the problem? :3 Want to look like a stick figure? May be it's time to build some muscle, man. :9 Well keep in mind pictures always look different. My abs don't really look like that in real life. I just want more defined abs. And I've been trying to put on muscle for over a year. While I may not be huge I used to look even skinnier than now haha. But I tour for a living which gets in the way of strict nutrition, also I'm vegan. But I try my best (: And thanks for the reverse crunch tip Goose I'll try that out. |
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MercNil
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 11:02:44 AM » |
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Thanks a lot for the replies everyone. I know I'm not crazy now or the only one that experienced this haha. As for the abs in the kitchen thing, I really don't have much fat on me. I struggle to put on mass so I don't want to get any leaner. Here's a photo of me so you can see my body type: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/undertheblade/2012-02-02_19-09-49_846.jpgWhen everyone talks about squats, deadlifts and presses I'm wondering is this really vital to getting abs? I understand how it's contributing. But I can't say I do much of the three besides presses whenever I have the opportunity. I guess I just didn't know they were this essential. I figured ab work outs were the focus point, after body fat of course. I'll try working on my form some more when doing the ab workouts. The weight just doesn't seem to change anything for me apart from my first set. After that it's like I'm working out my arms, except not really cause I'm just tiring them out by hanging on to this weight. I can't seem to get into that 10-15 or 8-12 rep zone. I get to like 20-25 and my stomach feels fine and I can push to 30 only then its either my arms or body getting tired from bicycles for example. Frustrating. I'd like to try hanging leg raises as well as deadlifts and all that but I simply can't I'm on the move too much. I'm looking for strictly ab related work outs I guess since these don't seem to be cutting it. The only thing that kicks my butt is planks. You're thin. And your abs are showing. What's the problem? :3 Want to look like a stick figure? May be it's time to build some muscle, man. :9 Well keep in mind pictures always look different. My abs don't really look like that in real life. I just want more defined abs. And I've been trying to put on muscle for over a year. While I may not be huge I used to look even skinnier than now haha. But I tour for a living which gets in the way of strict nutrition, also I'm vegan. But I try my best (: And thanks for the reverse crunch tip Goose I'll try that out. I see. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 05:58:06 PM » |
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you already have abs making them very big like bodybuilders will take long time doesnt happen overnight you know |
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