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    « Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 03:07:17 PM »

    ^Yes, it's a good activation exercise, but few people will do it, you know?  Grin That's why I recommended pushups, if you do them right, you don't need to add an exercise such as scap pushups...The scapulae upward rotation function is worked everytime you press overhead  Wink
    By the way, it also assists in elevating the scapulae. When the houlder girdle is fixed, it can elevate the ribs, thus assisting in respiration.
    The serratus anterior helps holding the scapulae against the thoracic wall (which is why those with winged scapulae need to pay special attention to activating and strengthening this muscle).
    I was just sticking to the most common and general biomechanic functions  Tongue. There's also a way to use the TRX to add significant resistance to the serratus wall slide, but that being obscure I didn't mention...until now.

    Can you describe it, or link to a video?
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    « Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 03:24:51 PM »

    A proper push-up, with correct form, will be just fine.  A plyometric push-up can also be utilised, but you need to use strict form otherwise it is worthless.
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    « Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 03:55:57 PM »

    ^Yes, it's a good activation exercise, but few people will do it, you know?  Grin That's why I recommended pushups, if you do them right, you don't need to add an exercise such as scap pushups...The scapulae upward rotation function is worked everytime you press overhead  Wink
    By the way, it also assists in elevating the scapulae. When the houlder girdle is fixed, it can elevate the ribs, thus assisting in respiration.
    The serratus anterior helps holding the scapulae against the thoracic wall (which is why those with winged scapulae need to pay special attention to activating and strengthening this muscle).

    I was just sticking to the most common and general biomechanic functions  Tongue. There's also a way to use the TRX to add significant resistance to the serratus wall slide, but that being obscure I didn't mention...until now.


    Can you describe it, or link to a video?

    TRX serratus slides - Mike Reinold

    I imagine if you got the correct length on the straps or the right angle it could become incredibly challenging vs. the real lack of challenge on the wall slide version.
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    « Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 04:03:05 PM »

    Thanks. Looks good.
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    « Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 04:47:26 AM »

    A great article came out yesterday by Rookie. This should be great source of information here.

    http://www.rookiejournal.com/the-bench-press-shoulder-imbalances-pain.html
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    « Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 07:39:37 AM »

    ^Yes, it's a good activation exercise, but few people will do it, you know?  Grin That's why I recommended pushups, if you do them right, you don't need to add an exercise such as scap pushups...The scapulae upward rotation function is worked everytime you press overhead  Wink
    By the way, it also assists in elevating the scapulae. When the houlder girdle is fixed, it can elevate the ribs, thus assisting in respiration.
    The serratus anterior helps holding the scapulae against the thoracic wall (which is why those with winged scapulae need to pay special attention to activating and strengthening this muscle).

    I was just sticking to the most common and general biomechanic functions  Tongue. There's also a way to use the TRX to add significant resistance to the serratus wall slide, but that being obscure I didn't mention...until now.


    Can you describe it, or link to a video?

    TRX serratus slides - Mike Reinold
    I imagine if you got the correct length on the straps or the right angle it could become incredibly challenging vs. the real lack of challenge on the wall slide version.


    I'm going to try these tonight at the end of my workout. Thank you for the info guys !
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    « Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 07:55:10 AM »

    This morning I was doing some yoga for the first time in awhile, and I was reminded of this thread.

    I was hinking about the function of the serratus
    Just remember the serratus has 2 functions. One is shoulder upward rotation of the scapula (achieved by flexion of the shoulders above a 90 degree angle) and the other is protraction of the shoulder blades.
    and realized that the sun salutations used for a standard yoga warm up


    activate the serratus quite nicely in the transitions from up dog to down dog (poses 7 and 8 in that image).

    If you're doing a more calorie intensive yoga style as cardio (like astanga or "power yoga") you'll be doing tons of vinyasas (also called 'hindu pushups')

    That's basically a tricep pushup, followed by a stiff arm slide backward into the down dog positon (all shoulder).

    Just convinced myself more that yoga is a perfect compliment to a good lifting routine.
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    « Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 08:28:17 AM »

    But... Do the really big n buff guys pay attention to train this one isolated?

    I bet this one gets trained with lots of other compounds. Like OP.
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    « Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 09:45:27 AM »

    This morning I was doing some yoga for the first time in awhile, and I was reminded of this thread.

    I was hinking about the function of the serratus
    Just remember the serratus has 2 functions. One is shoulder upward rotation of the scapula (achieved by flexion of the shoulders above a 90 degree angle) and the other is protraction of the shoulder blades.
    and realized that the sun salutations used for a standard yoga warm up


    activate the serratus quite nicely in the transitions from up dog to down dog (poses 7 and 8 in that image).

    If you're doing a more calorie intensive yoga style as cardio (like astanga or "power yoga") you'll be doing tons of vinyasas (also called 'hindu pushups')

    That's basically a tricep pushup, followed by a stiff arm slide backward into the down dog positon (all shoulder).

    Just convinced myself more that yoga is a perfect compliment to a good lifting routine.

    Well a pushup into down dog is a good serratus activation, thoracic spine extension, calf stretch or calf dynamic stretching if you alternate dorsi and plantar flexing your feet, and hamstring stretch down correctly. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of yoga poses because your lumbar spine gets put into flexion and extension or twisting constantly and this would especially happen if a student was unaware of how to properly move into or out of any given pose.

    Pushup into down dog is indeed a great one though. Won't do almost anything to strengthen your serratus, but it certainly will activate it.
    But... Do the really big n buff guys pay attention to train this one isolated?

    I bet this one gets trained with lots of other compounds. Like OP.

    It does get trained very well by OHP or stabilizes in many compounds BUT it's often woefully under-recruited, inactive or weak. It's like the glutes, often you have to make it "remember" what its job is before you can really get to using it or strengthening it in various exercises. I don't think you really have to isolate the serratus besides in activation movements, it should just be part of any good pushup, overhead press, etc. to use it.
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    « Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 10:58:06 AM »

    Pushup into down dog is indeed a great one though. Won't do almost anything to strengthen your serratus, but it certainly will activate it.

    Oh yeah, won't get it big or strong. More stressing how useful yoga can be to supplement lifting, either as warmup/cooldown or worked into the cardio rotation.
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    « Reply #25 on: February 03, 2012, 11:00:38 AM »

    Pushup into down dog is indeed a great one though. Won't do almost anything to strengthen your serratus, but it certainly will activate it.

    Oh yeah, won't get it big or strong. More stressing how useful yoga can be to supplement lifting, either as warmup/cooldown or worked into the cardio rotation.
    I'm definitely a fan of anything that gets people to stretch, dynamically or statically and body awareness is great. My beef is only the instruction/"It's magical" that gets put around things like yoga. Science is science, whether it's down dog or deadlift Tongue
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