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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 12:49:03 AM »

Try GTG.

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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2012, 12:52:49 AM »

Try GTG.

http://humanmachine.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/grease-the-groove-for-strength/

Also people learn to snip posts, it makes posts easier to read.

EDIT: Merc posted it already.


lol Thanks anyways bro much appreciated.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 12:54:06 AM »

I'll probably end up sucking at doing these too.  And I'll be pretty damn close to failure the whole time. My ladders will probably be like 1,2,3.. 1,2.. 1,1,1,1,1,1 etc. Cheesy
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    « Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 01:00:03 AM »

    I'll probably end up sucking at doing these too.  And I'll be pretty damn close to failure the whole time. My ladders will probably be like 1,2,3.. 1,2.. 1,1,1,1,1,1 etc. Cheesy

    Don't think like that.  Focus on executing the exercise.  And as you're not a machine, you will have limits, but you'll be able to pull of numbers as long as you focus on the lifts, and not at the results. Smiley  Thinking about the end goal is what causes depression if one isn't able to make it happen, but focussing on the process makes it work, instead.  59 seconds. hehehe
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    « Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 02:24:07 AM »

    Try GTG.

    http://humanmachine.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/grease-the-groove-for-strength/

    Also people learn to snip posts, it makes posts easier to read.

    EDIT: Merc posted it already.


    lol Thanks anyways bro much appreciated.


    No problem.

    If you're doing it just stay from failure.

    I personally do 50 reps on the thick bar and on my off days (chinups, pullups, wide grip).

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    « Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 05:44:39 AM »

    I have the same problem, other exercise numbers go up chinups dont, I tried doing 3x5 heavier weight for 2 weeks, didnt help.
    Im struggling with 6KG of added weight; 8-7.5-7 re my reps. (Sorry if Im ruining your post, I have a similar question and dont wanna make a new topic)
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    « Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 05:55:00 AM »

    Just keep doing them with your all effort, eventually they will increase. Repetitions increase slowly, instead you could increase the number of sets and add weight. You could also emphasize more your form, very rarely I've seen people actually going all the way down, and not all the way up either.

    Pull-ups/chin-ups aren't like any other exercise. Many top level bar-athletes and gymnasts manage hardly do 30+ clean repetitions which is really the elite level strength and endurance. Do not think you would be able to increase your repetitions even close the same speed as with other lifts because then you would pretty quickly reach the upper intermediate(20 clean pull-ups) or even elite level(30 pull-ups) very easily when people able to do those feats have trained years and have gone through hell to be where they are now.


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    « Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 05:58:10 AM »

    If you're doing 5 reps I doubt you'd be able to increase the max amount of chin-ups you're doing if you can do many of them already.

    As Raton said adding more sets. When you for example get 3x5 then add one set and when you can do 4x5 then try to get one set of 6 and rest of the sets 5.

    My numbers go up without a problem at the moment, last time I stalled in 13. Doing them from deadhang.

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    « Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 06:07:12 AM »

    I don't suppose anyone could give me any advice regarding chin-ups while we are all on the topic?  Smiley I am currently doing wolfs 21 workouts and seem to be adding very slowly if at all to my chin-ups and was thinking of trying the pavels ladder method. Since pavels ladder will result in me doing more than 8 per set overall would I be better doing only 1 or 2 ladders per workout?
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    « Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 06:09:56 AM »

    I don't suppose anyone could give me any advice regarding chin-ups while we are all on the topic?  Smiley I am currently doing wolfs 21 workouts and seem to be adding very slowly if at all to my chin-ups and was thinking of trying the pavels ladder method. Since pavels ladder will result in me doing more than 8 per set overall would I be better doing only 1 or 2 ladders per workout?

    You may do as many ladders as your able provided you don't go to failure.  If you feel you're about to go to failure on just one rep, it's time to stop.  The principle pavel based his theory is that you should be fresh, and when you're not fresh, you will no longer be able to perform the ladder effectively.  The solution is to do it next time.  Yes, you should try pavel's ladder.  You'll suprise yourself by being able to do a lot more than the normal rep set prescribed.  What's important is the total volume done.
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    « Reply #25 on: February 03, 2012, 06:12:59 AM »

    Cheers for the advice mate  Smiley
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