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« on: February 06, 2012, 06:02:22 AM »

Hey all, when I do dips I feel a pretty bad pain in my left shoulder right near the bottom. It's only my left shoulder though and I've injured it before by some weird deadlift, but that's another story. I REALLY want to do dips sooner or later but what if the pain will still be there? Which I suspect it will be. Can I do something to fix this?
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    « Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 06:12:35 AM »

    Hey all, when I do dips I feel a pretty bad pain in my left shoulder right near the bottom. It's only my left shoulder though and I've injured it before by some weird deadlift, but that's another story. I REALLY want to do dips sooner or later but what if the pain will still be there? Which I suspect it will be. Can I do something to fix this?

    Limit your range of motion. So you don't over strain your shoulders.  You may increase your rom when it no longer hurts.

    Important.  See a doctor for diagnosis because it may be something worth curing by medication.
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    « Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 06:25:37 AM »

    Hey all, when I do dips I feel a pretty bad pain in my left shoulder right near the bottom. It's only my left shoulder though and I've injured it before by some weird deadlift, but that's another story. I REALLY want to do dips sooner or later but what if the pain will still be there? Which I suspect it will be. Can I do something to fix this?

    i have the same problem. dips messed up my shoulder pretty bad. i don't do them anymore. if they cause you pain, i would cut them out completely. there are plenty of other exercises you can do to work your chest and triceps.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 06:29:53 AM »

    I remember that I used to have shoulder pain when I did overhead pressing. This went away when I just stopped overhead pressing for quite a while and strengthened my external shoulder rotation (read: cuban presses). Could be that this isn't the cause in your case but it's worth a shot I'd think. Next to that I'd say it's a good idea to lay off the dips for a while whatever you're planning on doing.
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    « Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 06:39:54 AM »

    Are you doing them with full BW? If so, I suggest you do them assisted if you can. Start with lower weight and perfect form. They are great triceps builders.
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    « Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 07:30:15 AM »

    Hunch your upperback. I can't post a video right now but most of gymnastic power position include an intentional, active hunch of upperback and flare out (show off) the lats (search hollow body). I also just learnt about this recently and it does make my shoulder feels much more stable on all rings exercises including dips. If you need a cue: try to involve your lats on the dips.
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    « Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 05:35:51 AM »

    Thanks guys! I'll try to do some cuban presses then Ruben. How many times a week do you suggest?

    I'm doing chest dips btw guys, and yes full BW sir, if I do them at all. But it's kinda light for me tbh.

    And thanks concuncon, I'll try it next time I go to the gym. Smiley
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    « Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 05:38:41 AM »

    Once or twice a week, your choice. Remember you'll be doing very low weight on this one and rather high reps (10-15). Do this after your major UB exercises if you do any that day.
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    « Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 06:13:39 AM »

    Thanks. Should I do barbell cuban presses then?
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    « Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 06:16:02 AM »

    Yeah either db or bb, doesn't matter that much imo. I always did it with a barbell and a rather wide grip.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 06:36:48 AM »

    i once had the same problem but it was because i went too low on my dips. once i stopped going past horizontal everything was fine. and im doing dips with quite a bit of added weight with no injuries.
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    « Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 08:54:17 AM »

    If it hurts...don't do it. Period. When you can be asked "Does it hurt" and answer ABSOLUTELY without equivocation "No" then you could or should do dips. Otherwise it's just not worth it. No gains could be worth that.

    Parallel bar dips with the bars about under your shoulders are the only kind of dips I'd really recommend besides ring dips. Otherwise the positioning of your shoulders is likely injurious.

    So like everyone's said, try working on your form, see what's what but if it hurts DON'T do it.

    http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/dip
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    « Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 01:15:09 PM »

    Yep, what Paralysisxiii said!  If it hurts your joints, dont do it!  Joint pain is never good. 

    A few things you can try to eliminate shoulder pain, some of which have been mentioned already

    1) only go down till your elbows are at a 90 degree angle
    2) Go slow, do NOT swing
    3) Keep your shoulders held down and back with your chest thrust out
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    « Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 07:07:07 PM »

    dips hurt my shoulder too...
    so what did i do..
    i stopped doing them

    do diamond pushups or work up to handstand pushups or even diamond handstand pushups
    add weights if you want to that also


    or just do close grip bench press, bench dips + weights (but use perfect form for these), etc etc..

    too many great tricep exercises out there, dips are just one
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