Mick3D
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« Reply #135 on: October 03, 2010, 10:45:24 AM » |
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Anybody who's serious about bulking up / gaining strength should always incorporate the Big 5 into their routine:
1) Pull-Ups
2) Squat
3) Deadlift
4) Military Press
5) Pec Flyes (Pec Flyes narrowly beat the Bench Press to make it to No.5)
Honestly mate if you don't want to do the Deadlift, then don't, but be prepared to miss out on some serious gains.
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90kg - Deadlift
30kg - Military Press
80kg - Squat
2 x 17kg - Dumbbell Bench Press
2 x 14kg - Dumbbell Pec Flyes
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« Reply #136 on: October 03, 2010, 10:47:56 AM » |
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Hmm, I've got 3 of those exercises included (1, 4, 5). Guess I'm satisfied with that!  |
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« Reply #137 on: October 03, 2010, 10:56:15 AM » |
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Anybody who's serious about bulking up / gaining strength should always incorporate the Big 5 into their routine:
1) Pull-Ups
2) Squat
3) Deadlift
4) Military Press
5) Pec Flyes (Pec Flyes narrowly beat the Bench Press to make it to No.5)
Honestly mate if you don't want to do the Deadlift, then don't, but be prepared to miss out on some serious gains.
I'm going to do deadlifts. I just thought that I was only supposed to feel it in my legs, plus I was using too much weight. And I thought flyes were more of an isolation for the chest, whereas bench press works chest and triceps? |
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« Reply #138 on: October 03, 2010, 11:03:58 AM » |
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The combination of reading the last three pages of this thread and me being extremely tired has made it hard to distinguish real world from crazy Dali-ish dream.  |
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« Reply #139 on: October 03, 2010, 11:39:41 AM » |
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Anybody who's serious about bulking up / gaining strength should always incorporate the Big 5 into their routine:
1) Pull-Ups
2) Squat
3) Deadlift
4) Military Press
5) Pec Flyes (Pec Flyes narrowly beat the Bench Press to make it to No.5)
Honestly mate if you don't want to do the Deadlift, then don't, but be prepared to miss out on some serious gains.
i serious fail to see how pec flyes have made it to number 5? are you actually kidding me, flyes vs bench press? the best exercises one can do are the big compounds: deadlifts, squats, bench, powercleans, overhead presses, rows and olympic lifts. |
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« Reply #140 on: October 03, 2010, 11:42:30 AM » |
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The best, the best here, the best there... Everyone's got a different body, everyone's body prefers different exercises  |
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« Reply #141 on: October 03, 2010, 11:47:21 AM » |
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I'm shocked you prefer rows to pull-ups! If you pull out the pec flyes and put bench press instead, I agree with Mick3D. Always compound>isolation. And research does show that flyes have a shorter time of activation than the bench press does, not to mention less weight (although the leverage does even that part out).
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« Reply #142 on: October 03, 2010, 11:52:12 AM » |
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I'm shocked you prefer rows to pull-ups! If you pull out the pec flyes and put bench press instead, I agree with Mick3D. Always compound>isolation. And research does show that flyes have a shorter time of activation than the bench press does, not to mention less weight (although the leverage does even that part out).
apoligies, pullups/chins should be there. so it looks like: deadlifts squats bench powercleans overhead presses rows olympic lifts pullups/chinups |
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Mick3D
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« Reply #143 on: October 03, 2010, 12:26:28 PM » |
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i serious fail to see how pec flyes have made it to number 5? are you actually kidding me, flyes vs bench press?
the best exercises one can do are the big compounds: deadlifts, squats, bench, powercleans, overhead presses, rows and olympic lifts. Currently I do both the Dumbbell Bench Press and the Pec Flyes on the same day, but at one point I use to alternate week by week and I personally find the Pec Flyes to be much more of a challenge. By the way if you read the Exercise & Muscle directory, you'll find the Pec Flyes and Chest Press both work a significant number of muscles. Dumbbell Pec Flyes VS. Dumbbell Chest PressYou may disagree, as will many people, with my ranking of Pec Flyes over the Chest Press, but then again I find Rows hold nothing in comparison to Pull-Ups. But it's all down to what works for you and what makes you feel that burn more. I'm going to do deadlifts. I just thought that I was only supposed to feel it in my legs, plus I was using too much weight. And I thought flyes were more of an isolation for the chest, whereas bench press works chest and triceps? The Pec Flyes work quite a few muscles. The Deadlift on the other hand is quite possibly the single most dynamic compound movement you can possibly do. |
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« Last Edit: October 03, 2010, 12:58:02 PM by Mick3D »
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:: COME GET SOME ::
:: Current Statistics ::
90kg - Deadlift
30kg - Military Press
80kg - Squat
2 x 17kg - Dumbbell Bench Press
2 x 14kg - Dumbbell Pec Flyes
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« Reply #144 on: October 03, 2010, 12:45:04 PM » |
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Done barbell benchpress once in my life, I stick to dumbell benchpress and flies(and dips etc ofc). Main reason was all the idiots in my town being lunatics about bench so by principle I stayed away. Now days I can´t do barbell benchpress as my shoulder cant do that movement, doubt I would do them anyway. And dumbell benchpress is a compound, not isolation  I'm going to do deadlifts. I just thought that I was only supposed to feel it in my legs, plus I was using too much weight. And I thought flyes were more of an isolation for the chest, whereas bench press works chest and triceps? The Pec Flyes work quite a few muscles. The Deadlift on the other hand is quite possibly the single most dynamic compound movement you can possibly do. Yup, deadlifts are great, just look forward to shoulder is fixed so i can really up the weights  |
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« Reply #145 on: October 03, 2010, 12:50:52 PM » |
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For me the big 6 are:
Deadlift
Squat
Benchpress
Row (as free as possible!)
Military Press
Pull-up (/cable pulldowns)
Like this it is a really good workout for ur entire body!
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« Reply #146 on: October 03, 2010, 07:56:25 PM » |
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Wrist curls, reverse wrist curls, reverse fly, reverse calf raises, neck hyperextensions and shoulder protraction(for serratus anterior)
That's where it's at
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« Reply #147 on: October 03, 2010, 08:06:49 PM » |
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Wrist curls, reverse wrist curls, reverse fly, reverse calf raises, neck hyperextensions and shoulder protraction(for serratus anterior)
That's where it's at
Dude I PR'd on my shoulder protraction |
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« Reply #148 on: February 06, 2012, 11:31:56 AM » |
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Yea I have to admit I only use light weights when doing deadlifts for the same reasons!
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« Reply #149 on: February 06, 2012, 11:33:13 AM » |
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This is an old thread. I love the DEADLIFTS. |
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