sven18
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2010, 08:01:08 PM » |
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If you are bodybuilding you do not necessarily have to do deadlifts; however, I think you would be missing out on big strength gains. The most important thing to work on for your deadlift is your FORM. You absolutely must have the proper form otherwise you run the risk of injuring yourself and causing unnecessary lower back pain and joint pain. If you feel it in your shoulders you probably need to make sure your shoulders are locked back and your chest is pushed out. Also on a lift like the deadlift where so many muscle groups are used, the weaker ones will bear the brunt until they get proportionally caught up. Always keep your head up and focus on a point towards the ceiling and then straighten out as you lift the weight up. Also you may just need to lower the weight. It is also extremely important to stretch before and after the lifting session and to warm up with lower weight before going into your sets.
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Weighing 168 pounds at 6'1. Working on physical therapy to deal with tendonitis in my shoulders. Also restructuring workout plans and cardio routines to accomodate the injury. Due to the injury I'm switching from power lifting to more of an overall fitness approach.
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2010, 08:05:53 PM » |
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I never performed Deadlifts. It is a great compound movement involving muscle groups too numerous to mention.
Also it really works the Glutes with lead to the development of a BIG Posterior making it hard to achieve the look of a Frank Zane / Bob Paris / Lee Labrada.
Serious Dead Lifters resemble Power lifters in stature.
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2010, 08:38:32 PM » |
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about 2 months ago in my progress diary, strs8 asked me if i deadlift. at the time, i wasnt deadlifting. i had done them twice before, and i absolutely hated them. like.. refused to deadlift. I replied asking things like 'well whats so great about them? why should i do them? if anyone can convince me, maybe ill give it another try..' and got a bunch of responses. So i replaced lower back raises with deadlifts in my back day. I started with less weight than i was using during my previous attempts, was absolutely sure my form was correct, and just decided to just stick with it. Theres a reason those who deadlift love the move and swear by it- and after only 2 months i can now say ive discovered that reason! they awaken every muscle in your body and force your muscles to work in unicen and in the most practical way possible - by lifting something up off the ground. The more compound the lift, the more muscle fibers will be involved- therefore the most growth will result, and in the most efficient way possible. Deadlifts are about as compound as it gets. If strength and mass increases are your goals, id say start light, get the form down, and stick with them  tgo
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Redgrave
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2010, 08:39:46 PM » |
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It's true, nothing exhausts my muscles like the deadlift.
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2010, 11:46:32 PM » |
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Just because you are doing deadlifts doesn't mean that you have to work yourself into complete exhaustion every time. The starting strength routine for example, only has one set of five deadlifts ever other workout. If your are doing 3x12 then I can understand why you hate them.
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2010, 01:26:35 AM » |
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Deadlift is THE exercise. In my routine(SL5x5)I don't do very many of them but the few I do(workset of 1x5 only) are harder than all the other exercises(incl squats 5x5) together. No way I'd skip them!
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2010, 01:46:17 AM » |
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I did deadlifts yesterday and set a new 5 rep max PR. Just afterward I had to sit down for 5 because I was light headed and felt like vomiting. Feels good man 
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2010, 02:12:54 AM » |
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I did deadlifts yesterday and set a new 5 rep max PR. Just afterward I had to sit down for 5 because I was light headed and felt like vomiting. Feels good man  That's exactly what I mean! 
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vertigo66
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2010, 02:29:09 AM » |
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I hate going to work, should I give that up??? You get what you put in. true a bodybuilder can do without dead lifts, but a normal person can do without lifting any weight at all. maybe we should all give up lifting cos its too hard??? humm. NOPE.
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2010, 02:31:03 AM » |
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I did deadlifts yesterday and set a new 5 rep max PR. Just afterward I had to sit down for 5 because I was light headed and felt like vomiting. Feels good man  That's exactly what I mean!  If you think 5 reps are brutal, try pulling out 12 reps with a hex bar (by going into full squat position, not the hips-held-high version) - this seems to combine the brutal effect of high reps with lots of leg involvement squat brings in and the overall body usage (and pain, especially with the forearms and upper back) deadlifts are associated with. I did heavy deadlifts with a straight bar before (also for 5-6 reps), as well as back squats, but this beats both of them. Although I'm not the type who strictly associates effectiveness of a workout by how beaten you feel after it, I must say that it's truly a great feeling to sit down after HBDLs (this is the only thing I can do for about 2 mins), close my eyes and continue gasping for air, looking forward to two more sets of the same. 
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The names of the game are effort and progressive poundages, but the effort must manifest itself in terms of progressive poundages. Judge the effectiveness of your training by the poundages you are moving, in good form, not by effort per se.
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2010, 02:34:44 AM » |
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Mind giving me your knee's then?
I mean if your not gonna use them you might as well let me have them since I tore some cartilage in mine, I still deadlift but I'd rather have healthy knee's all the same.
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2010, 08:06:18 AM » |
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I don't do deadlift for the simple reason that they use too many muscles and i do a split routine. I don't feel I'm missing too much as I do squats and lunges instead.
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2010, 08:12:33 AM » |
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Wrist curls is betta  you guys have no clue about bodybuilding.  read a book guys. Please.
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the new bulking up FAQ"you can't trust science, it has been corrected" -some fundie "nothing happens in contradiction to nature. Only contradiction to what we know of it" -x files  "you don't base principles on one bit of anecdotal evidence" -td
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2010, 08:19:43 AM » |
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moonsugarvehk: friendly and really explaining his ideas carefully like always xD
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What lies before us and what lies behind us, are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us!
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2010, 08:22:03 AM » |
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probally using bad form, or too much weight, get an experianced person to help you out, videos sometimes aren't enough.
you can also try a belt, but im against them.
why against belts? i use them even while doing military press. squat and deadlift with light weights in first set it is necessary
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The true strength of a man is not about how hard he can hit ! its about how hard he can get hit and keep moving forward
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