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« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2010, 09:40:37 PM »

i need help to get in shap can u tell me wot the best way to wokoat with my dumbell
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« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2010, 10:27:11 PM »

Have you watched any of Scooby's YouTube videos? Those will get you going for starters. Look for Scooby1961 at YouTube, you won't be disappointed!

i need help to get in shap can u tell me wot the best way to wokoat with my dumbell
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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2010, 05:47:02 AM »

Let me put it like this: I used to have French at school and my grades were ok, but I didn't make much use of it for years. Should I now get right into reading Camus' "L'Étranger" or should I brush up my grammar and vocabulary first? Wink

Yeah, shouldn't be too difficult to understand.   Cheesy
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    « Reply #48 on: September 11, 2010, 11:30:56 AM »

    I'll simply ring you when I don't understand something, Hollis, so stay close to that phone!  Wink Cheesy
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    « Reply #49 on: September 11, 2010, 12:21:11 PM »

    I'll simply ring you when I don't understand something, Hollis, so stay close to that phone!  Wink Cheesy

    I'm right here when you need me.  Grin
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    « Reply #50 on: September 12, 2010, 05:48:27 AM »

    16 ys old beginner bodybuilder !!!

    scooby says do that workout in the teen workout vid as 2-3 days a week(instead can i do it in my way like this
    sat,sun=workout
    Mon=rest
    Tuesday=workout
    weds=rest
    Thurs=workout
    Friday=rest
    how about this my routine 4days a week workout  and other rest ??)

    and second plan about vid is that can i include few other exercises and can i make it of full 1 hour workout or 2 hour ?

    3rd plan is can i do like sat full arm workout like (fore arm,biceps,triceps,shoulder) other day abs chest other legs like that ?? what i ment is all diff days all diff muscles gruop workout huh pls answer all them seperatley
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    « Reply #51 on: September 20, 2010, 10:22:53 AM »

    Well i been working 8 months since now but with no good results, i saw some results since now but not much as someone could expect in 8 months, and i believe its because of experience, wrong training and nutrition and overtraining.
    First the trainer at gym gave me a full body workout program the he gives to anyone there both genders and i didn't know much and i was doing it everyday for 6 days a week then he gave me another one more advanced and i did that for 6 weeks the one before for 8, so i was doing this everyday again.
    Then he gave me another one that is basically 3 day split chest-triceps, back biceps and legs shoulders, and i was going everyday for 6 days a week again, now i know that i was overstraining.
    But he didn't really cared so much as he only was giving me  a program every 6-8 weeks.
    I know now that 8 months i wasn't doing well and it was waste of time. now i want to start over again from the beginning with a good full body workout i can do 30 pushups and with little difficulty 6 pull ups.
    I already read wolfs guide on how to create a program i didn't succeed as i couldn't create one. Then i read dodo's post about full body workout plans but again i got confused. and i still am as i don't know which program to follow. someone suggested me also the stronglift 5x5 plan.
    So what program should i follow?
    I basically want to gain both strength and muscle not only to get stronger as stronglift program is for that reason i want both. so how i am gonna do this? if someone have the time to read this please give me some tips
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    « Reply #52 on: September 20, 2010, 10:51:42 AM »

    I've got the same goals as you actually have - check out the awesome in my signature and tell me what you think of my workout.  Smiley
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    « Reply #53 on: September 20, 2010, 10:56:43 AM »

    Well i been working 8 months since now but with no good results, i saw some results since now but not much as someone could expect in 8 months, and i believe its because of experience, wrong training and nutrition and overtraining.
    First the trainer at gym gave me a full body workout program the he gives to anyone there both genders and i didn't know much and i was doing it everyday for 6 days a week then he gave me another one more advanced and i did that for 6 weeks the one before for 8, so i was doing this everyday again.
    Then he gave me another one that is basically 3 day split chest-triceps, back biceps and legs shoulders, and i was going everyday for 6 days a week again, now i know that i was overstraining.
    But he didn't really cared so much as he only was giving me  a program every 6-8 weeks.
    I know now that 8 months i wasn't doing well and it was waste of time. now i want to start over again from the beginning with a good full body workout i can do 30 pushups and with little difficulty 6 pull ups.
    I already read wolfs guide on how to create a program i didn't succeed as i couldn't create one. Then i read dodo's post about full body workout plans but again i got confused. and i still am as i don't know which program to follow. someone suggested me also the stronglift 5x5 plan.
    So what program should i follow?
    I basically want to gain both strength and muscle not only to get stronger as stronglift program is for that reason i want both. so how i am gonna do this? if someone have the time to read this please give me some tips

    What is wrong with giving out the same full body program to both genders? Men and women can train the same way - the only thing that will differ is how much muscle they develop.

    I think your basic problem may be that you have unrealistic expectations. You can do 30 push-ups and 6 pull-ups, which is progress. What keeps you back is not sticking to a program suitable to your current fitness level. Either the teen beginner or regular teen workout or, if you train at a gym, Wolf's.

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    « Reply #54 on: September 20, 2010, 11:05:38 AM »

    well i guess you are right that i don't stick to a program thats true, but from wolf which one to follow?
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    « Reply #55 on: September 20, 2010, 11:09:48 AM »

    well i guess you are right that i don't stick to a program thats true, but from wolf which one to follow?


    That trainer has been wasting your time for 8 months.  You should return the favour and bitch-slap him hard next time you see him.  Follow this, three times a week:

    Squats (for two sessions a week) or Deadlifts (one session a week) - 3x5-8
    BB bench press - 3x8-12
    Rows - 3x8-12
    Military press - 3x8-12
    Chinups - 3x8-12
    Dips - 3x8-12
    Cable crunch - 3x12-15

    It's certified by Wolf.  Cheesy
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    « Reply #56 on: September 20, 2010, 11:33:58 AM »

    well yeah ok, i think its good, but dodo's said that must be various of exercises including a full body workout. like an A and B workout and each with different exercises, isn't that much better??
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    « Reply #57 on: September 20, 2010, 11:46:23 AM »

    well yeah ok, i think its good, but dodo's said that must be various of exercises including a full body workout. like an A and B workout and each with different exercises, isn't that much better??

    Nope.  It is once you are beyond the stage you are at: at your stage, you don't need a full body workout like that.  The one I have outlined is best for where you are.
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    « Reply #58 on: September 20, 2010, 11:52:17 AM »

    and for how long should i do the workout you told me??
    and what if i add pushups, pull ups, and some other abs exercises, that would be good???
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    « Reply #59 on: September 20, 2010, 12:14:24 PM »

    and for how long should i do the workout you told me??
    and what if i add pushups, pull ups, and some other abs exercises, that would be good???

    OK, one very important thing: you have been overtraining, so you need a week off (at least): no weight training.  Just relax, eat and sleep as you would normally, do a bit of research.

    To be honest mate, I would just do that routine until you stop making gains.  That could be quite a while.  As long as you are continually adding weight to the bar and getting stronger, might as well just keep going.  If it works, keep doing it, don't worry about ''mixing it up''.

    No, I don't want you to chop and change the routine when you do it, for the simple reason that it is balanced as it is, and if you throw in things like pushups and pullups, you will overtrain.  I mean, you can ask Wolf if you want, and he can say if you can put things in, but my view is, no, do it as it as set out.  It works the way it is now: enough said.
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