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« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2011, 08:36:24 AM » |
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Dorian Yates retired prompted in large part by an accumulating list of chronic and career-threatening acute injuries. Yates had suffered both a torn biceps and triceps, the latter just three weeks prior to his final contest! Dorian Yates InjuryFrom the Man himself! lol, i just hate roiders.
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« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2011, 08:39:56 AM » |
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Dorian Yates retired prompted in large part by an accumulating list of chronic and career-threatening acute injuries. Yates had suffered both a torn biceps and triceps, the latter just three weeks prior to his final contest! Dorian Yates InjuryFrom the Man himself! lol, i just hate roiders. Why? I respect them very much, they are beasts!!
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« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2011, 09:02:34 AM » |
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Back on topic, this is not about steroids.
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« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2011, 09:42:48 AM » |
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Back on topic, this is not about steroids.
Sorry  .
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« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2011, 11:43:40 AM » |
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First of all, we must take into account that Mentzer and Yates were/are not simply two bodybuilders, roid users or whatever. Anyone who can take some time to read in script or watch in videos what they have to say, will understand we are talking about two very intelligent individuals, even if Mentzer was not the most easy to like person. To tell the truth, they changed the idea I had for pro bbs. And now to the subject of HIT:
First of all, from my little experience over the last five years of lifting I agree with Mentzer as much as one can about this: After a hard-intense workout (ex. one that gives you strong doms and big appetite for a couple of days), the body needs to stay away from ANY workouts for the next 3 days if your goal is max hypertrophy. If not for all, at least for people with average to high metabolic rates. Otherwise you are messing with your body's anabolic state. The "you must workout 5-6 d/w, each muscle group once every 5/7 days" approach is b/s, as I learned the hard way.
Secondly, HIT has helped me to improve strength, for ex. with my pull-ups, where doing 6-10 sets of pull-ups per workout for years gave me no progress.
Thirdly, HIT is very useful for busy weeks, where someone would not workout at all if his option was volume training.
On the other hand, I value muscle endurance and athletic ability a lot and this is something that HIT will not improve. So, imo you need to combine it with volume workouts or sports that work the same muscles.
Now, usualy, the way I apply HIT is Yates' way, that is to do a few exercises for each m.group, but only one (intense) set per exercise.
In conclusion, I would not use HIT exclusively but it has a place in my routine and I use it in combination with other training styles. We should also not forget, that even if Yates' and especially Mentzer's approach is a little too extreme for most, in fact, it did have a big influence in reducing workout times and time people spend in the gyms. As I read somewhere, "it made us think".
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« Reply #65 on: February 28, 2011, 11:46:15 AM » |
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Did my first HIT workout today (the yates way) best workout for a long time  .
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« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2011, 01:52:20 PM » |
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wow, can i just say that the lack of knowledge towards training is simply mind boggling.
dorian yates and the methods towards high intensity training are completely legit and a great way of training, EVERY single way of training has its benefits and its all about choosing the one that applies to YOU. the fact that you can say 'failure is pointless' is totally beyond me, in high intensity training you push to failure approximately 3-4 times per bodypart, per week, that isnt even that much in hindsight. another fact you should also consider... the promotion of muscle growth occurs when you are pushing the body and muscles beyond there normal operating parameters... AKA.. failure.
you also train each bodypart once every 6 days, not every 10, i dont know where you heard that.
i also train by the HIT method and i can honestly say it is the most satisfying, and imo the best way to train as from its very nature... its intense, and thats one of the things i love about bodybuilding, pushing yourself to the limit.
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« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2011, 01:54:31 PM » |
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also another point i forgot to add, was as posted above, yates and mike arnt simply 'roiders'.
so basically what the majority of people are saying on here is that also volume training is alot of poorly planned training, cos heck, these are the principles that 90% of ''roiders'' use right ?
also fabbe glad to hear you enjoyed your HIT session, stick with it, you'll love it
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« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2011, 02:03:30 PM » |
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Hey, thanks for your opinion  yeah I hate the stereotype of roiders. Yeah I'm pretty convinced to keep doing hit and I did nearly only go beyond failure today  .
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« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2011, 11:25:42 AM » |
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Just want to update you guys, I have been on HIT for ~3 weeks now and the gains have been VERY pleasing, you can read about it in my progress dairy. So HIT works wonders! 
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« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2011, 02:43:13 PM » |
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It works. People can talk about why it doesn't work all day long. It still does 
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