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« on: October 09, 2010, 11:31:24 AM »

hey guys im not here to look fr some ingenius upto date plan to lose 20kg in a week im just here looking for some healthy advice this is my schedule
 6 daw rugby training/games which in each case last fr 2 hours maaybe 1 1/2 but its a serious workout plenty of running maybe 4k per training with alot of pushups situps crunches burpees squates lunges a whole body workout !! i try to get mybe 1 maintenance workout in the gym to keep my strength ive gained troughout the summer
i want to lose bout 20 pounds bout 8kg i eat regurlay
5 meals which usualy consist of this
meal 1 : bowl of cereal
meal 2 : 2 pieces of fruit
meal 3 : sandwhich 2 pieces of fruit(usually ham and cheese with white bread)
meal 4 : dinner (chicken curry/pasta with a tomato based sauce with some kind of bread)
meal 5 : protein shake with a sandwhich toasted no butter ham and cheese
snacks : oranges apples bannanas
i get my 5 a day

i hate veg so dont get very much veggies but i eat alot of carbs i take amino acids and drink 5l of water daily and maybe 2l of milk no sweets ussualy but ive seen 0 results from 4 weeks
i do take a cheat day for saturday where i pig out maybe 5k calories for dat day but i always need a pick me up my new lifestyle choices are tuff any opinions on why my weight loss is ceased
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deadlft 200 kg 1rm (155 5x5 atm)
squat 180 kg 1rm (125 3x1 atm)
reach 7 % bf (14 atm)
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 11:43:07 AM »

If your weight loss has stopped it could be two things: maybe you're consuming more calories than you're burning off, or you're gaining muscle as you're losing fat resulting in little apparent weight loss. 5,000 calories is a lot to eat in a day, and is effectively giving you an extra day's worth of food to burn off.

2L of milk a day is a lot, and in itself is giving you about 720 calories extra a day, more if it's not skimmed. That's in addition to your meals. To be honest, I think the reason you're not losing weight as you wish is the first suggestion: more calories in than out. From the info you've given there's no way to tell what your calorific intake is, as this will depend on your portion sizes and what you're eating. What you're eating doesn't sound bad on the face of it, though personally I'd swap the white for brown bread.

I'd say start by eating less, and eat more veg. Then you'll see some weight loss improvement.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 11:51:39 AM »

thanks all takin on board but i havent started to lose weight haha im still 220 !! im not gaining strength still benching squating deadl the same but im not even losing a pound a month yeh def switching bread i eat relitivly small portions 2 slicesd of bread 2 slices of ham single slice of cheese dinner is my largest meal eg 200g of rice maybe a breast of chicken so i dnt tink my portions are exceeding the limit any other suggestions
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deadlft 200 kg 1rm (155 5x5 atm)
squat 180 kg 1rm (125 3x1 atm)
reach 7 % bf (14 atm)
deadlifts are unreal haha going to bench 120 by august 2011
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 12:04:41 PM »

Rice is about 340-350 calories per 100g so with 200 you're getting 700 calories before you even think about adding anything to it  Shocked Chicken will give you around 150 calories per 100g on top of that. A typical breast varies but say 200-250g for a medium one, with the growth-hormone pumped mutant ones being up to 400g. So chicken plus rice could easily be a 1300 calorie meal! 50-60g of rice is a more realistic portion size to have with a meal. Have a look at Scooby's nutrition guides and calculators to see what sort of figure per meal is a better ballpark for you to be in.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 05:56:10 AM »

jesus thats alot i suppose yeh cut the portions !!! is curry sauce a bad additive to my diner i eat alot of curry supprisingly being irish but love it it said it only has 30 calories
by the way would to much water add additional weight to my frame or would it just run through me ive read reports that say if you drink to much water you will retain some of it and therefor be heavier !!! heres my new meals
meal 1 : small portion cereal an apple glass of oj
meal 2 : 2 pieces fruit water
meal 3 : sandwich 2 pieces of fruit
meal 4 : 70 grams rice chicken breast
meal 5 + 6 sandwhich 2 pieces of fruit
my protein shake is with meal 4 + 5
ill work out the calories now and post it up ina while
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goals:bench 120 kg 1 rep max (90 atm)
deadlft 200 kg 1rm (155 5x5 atm)
squat 180 kg 1rm (125 3x1 atm)
reach 7 % bf (14 atm)
deadlifts are unreal haha going to bench 120 by august 2011
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 06:04:15 AM »

5 litres of water in my opinion plus 2 litres of milk seems to much in my opinion. are you forcing yourself to drink that much? for most, 1.5-2 litres is enough, i find that most people who drink more are forcing themselves unless they really are thirsty (then theres a chance they are diabetic). also, too much milk. theres a thing called GOMAD (gallon of milk a day - 4 litres or so) which is sort of what you are almost doing. but its meant to be incorporated to gain weight, serious weight and fast (including fat). maybe cut back to 2 glasses or so and include it within the water as that counts as fluids. that will cut out a lot of calories and extra water weight. also, if you are drinking so much milk, chances are if you dont space it out your are pissing out a lot, especially since your drinking 5l of water a day you must be guzzling fluids down.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 06:16:42 AM »

It depends what's in the curry sauce  Wink If it's a quality sauce where the ingredients are effectively what they'd be if you made your own then it's not going to add much nutritionally to the meal as it'd be mostly spices, water, and stuff like tomato, garlic, ginger, onion, etc. All good stuff, though some jarred pastes have a vegetable oil base so would be more calorific than using powders or whole spices. A complete sauce will be more water-based. Check the label on your sauce for info.

There are many great curry recipes though that can be made with whole spices, and quick curries from powder and a tinned tomatoes or a paste of onion and ginger. Quite why some bodybuilders eat just boiled chicken is beyond me when you can have it tasting of something  Cheesy

Water retention isn't really an issue I don't think. It's not something the body stores an excess of. Realistically you only need to drink about 2 of water a day but extra spread through the day isn't going to do any harm. You're way over this at 7L including the milk.

The meals look better, though I would move one of your protein shakes (like meal 4) to your second meal so your protein is more evenly distributed through the day. The fruit will help fill it out so it feels like more of a meal.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 06:23:54 AM »

i was thinking maybe at break fast as i get good protein throughout the day with the exception of meal 2 but meal 3 is only 2 hours after it(school time) so i dnt think it is detrimental but maybe i could add some nuts to meal 2 !
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deadlft 200 kg 1rm (155 5x5 atm)
squat 180 kg 1rm (125 3x1 atm)
reach 7 % bf (14 atm)
deadlifts are unreal haha going to bench 120 by august 2011
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 06:37:40 AM »

replace the milk with goddamn green vegetables........

personally i had nuts an seeds in my breakfast to give a nice kick start of energy for the day but up2u if u wana put them in meal 2.

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2010, 07:09:55 AM »

yeh i tink i might have them at 2 as i have meal 2 at 10 50 so it would be more maintaining my energy ive gt from my breakf
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goals:bench 120 kg 1 rep max (90 atm)
deadlft 200 kg 1rm (155 5x5 atm)
squat 180 kg 1rm (125 3x1 atm)
reach 7 % bf (14 atm)
deadlifts are unreal haha going to bench 120 by august 2011
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