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« on: July 02, 2009, 08:10:57 PM » |
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If I can have your opinion on this scooby, or anyone else thats wiilling to give any info.
Im sure everyone has heard of the stomach vaccum exercise, and my question is: Is it worth doing? How effective is it compared to crunches?
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 08:12:13 PM » |
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never heard of it, can you demonstrate ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 08:14:03 PM » |
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are you talking about the awesome possum trick people do? or just progressively contracting your abs moving them back and forth whilst contracted?
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 08:15:34 PM » |
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You simply pull your abs into spine and hold a bit Doesn't work for me. |
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 08:22:43 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 08:25:02 PM » |
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im not real big into isometrics.. but i've heard good things about exercises like this especially lying on your stomach id like to give that fancy stomach trick a try... you guys see that video scooby has a link too? i can contract one pec by itself and my tricep without my bicep but i think that ab thing is well... a few levels above that  we'll see! |
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 08:31:39 PM » |
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Im going to try it tomorrow and see how much of a burn i get i suppose.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 08:42:24 PM » |
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okie dokes post about it when done yay new exercises! |
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 09:16:55 PM » |
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I can do this...it doesn't do anything but strengthen the connection you feel with your abs..I don't know if the claims of reducing your size are true, but it's more of a "trick" to me than an exercise; HOWEVER, I've never broken it into sets and reps, so...  edit k just tried it as 3 sets...I feel them...not sore, but feel them...not sure what to call it... |
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 09:39:07 PM » |
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im not real big into isometrics.. but i've heard good things about exercises like this especially lying on your stomach id like to give that fancy stomach trick a try... you guys see that video scooby has a link too? i can contract one pec by itself and my tricep without my bicep but i think that ab thing is well... a few levels above that we'll see! I'm able to contract almost every muscle separately, even those above my eyebrows  My uncle can move his ears, he must be a mutant. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2009, 03:17:25 AM » |
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If I can have your opinion on this scooby, or anyone else thats wiilling to give any info.
Im sure everyone has heard of the stomach vaccum exercise, and my question is: Is it worth doing? How effective is it compared to crunches?
I think it's very valuable if you're not used to having correct posture or lifting heavy weights. If you are squatting or deadlifting, you have to form this stomach vacuum anyway - or at least most people do because it really helps with pelvic alignment and lets you 'feel' how much your back is curving, so as to lift correctly. Also, whilst sitting at a desk or similar, practicing this makes you sit more upright and is better for the lower back. When really used to this exercise, it will become automatic, you belly will appear flatter and you will seem taller and broader all simply from a change in posture. In my opinion, it's a good habit to get into daily or whenever you remember it rather than trying to make it part of any workout. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2009, 03:53:35 AM » |
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If I can have your opinion on this scooby, or anyone else thats wiilling to give any info.
Im sure everyone has heard of the stomach vaccum exercise, and my question is: Is it worth doing? How effective is it compared to crunches?
I'm on board with Vercix here that it's a bit of a "trick" BUT you can feel it after you've incorporated it in an Abs workout, but it's not the same as a typical damaged muscle ache. Hmmmm. Not sure anybody is interested to hear this but I have a friend who used to be rather chubby and would do the vaccuum motion with a pen in the folds on his stomach, then he would breathe out sharply with a little thrust. The pen could fire out at an alarming rate, somewhat like a champagne cork. You may find that disgusting or funny, either way it was a hell of a party trick Scott |
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 05:11:59 AM » |
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Here is what you can do with the stomach vacuum when you get really good. By the way, this fits well into the subject of muscle control which is very important in bodybuilding...
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2009, 05:16:56 AM » |
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Hey LtJames, Muscle control exercises like the ab vacuum are exteremely valuable but not as a replacment for traditional bodybuilding exercises like crunches. The purpose of these control drills is to help your brain find and be able to flex every little muscle independently. What this does is make it so that when you are lifting, you can recruit every single available muscle fiber to push that weight up. Using muscle control is something that takes lots of practice. Something similar you see much more often is pec control. Most people can make them bounce but few can slowly flex them independently in a very controlled fashion, if you can do this, you can have much more intense chest workouts. I give a quick demo of this in my focus video below, somewhere in the middle
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