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« on: January 20, 2012, 06:10:56 AM »
What to eat 1 hour before bedtime? I heard that carbs are bad for bedtime.

What are the advantages of eating 6 meals vs 3 meals a day?
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 06:26:56 AM »
Simply put, it is better to have a constant supply of protein through out the day for your muscles to re-build. It can also help you to lose fat as it stops your body going into a catabolic state by always having enough protein and nutrients with a intense work out schedule.
It depends on your goals really, 3 meals a day can get you into great shape, but not as big as, let's say scooby. As for the bedtime meal,
either a protein shake or cottage cheese is good.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 06:51:49 AM »
Ok I'll have cheese for bedtime.

Does eating 6 meals help in losing body fat? Or is it just for the muscles?
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 08:06:10 AM »
Yeah, believe it or not, eating more can help you to lose fat. But this is only healthy meals in small portions, (Veg,meat,complex carbs) etc
Also drink a lot of water a day.  I drink around 4 litres a day, and don't eat any carbs after my 3rd meal of the day.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 08:15:33 AM »
Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 06:26:56 AM
Simply put, it is better to have a constant supply of protein through out the day for your muscles to re-build. It can also help you to lose fat as it stops your body going into a catabolic state by always having enough protein and nutrients with a intense work out schedule.
It depends on your goals really, 3 meals a day can get you into great shape, but not as big as, let's say scooby. As for the bedtime meal,
either a protein shake or cottage cheese is good.

You are so wrong, i don't know where to start from.


Anyway @OP, meal frequancy and timing are up to your personal preference, it doesn't affect bodycomposition, this said you can eat anything you want before bed, as long as you don't exceed your caloric "budget" of the day and it fits your macronutrients, you will not gain fat.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 08:18:30 AM »
Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 06:26:56 AM
Simply put, it is better to have a constant supply of protein through out the day for your muscles to re-build. It can also help you to lose fat as it stops your body going into a catabolic state by always having enough protein and nutrients with a intense work out schedule.
It depends on your goals really, 3 meals a day can get you into great shape, but not as big as, let's say scooby. As for the bedtime meal,
either a protein shake or cottage cheese is good.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 08:22:41 AM »
What am i wrong in? please explain
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    « Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 08:28:36 AM »
    Yeah sorry but Vesh is off when it comes to meal frequency and carbs. Digestive thermogenesis ("stoking the metabolic furnace!") is simply your body creating the digestive enzymes to break down a given meal, and research has found the energy needed for that is based on the amount of calories you eat, not how often you eat. Carbs are fine later in the day, especially if you've done some higher intensity lifting or cardio and depleted glycogen levels. Carbs will go to replenishing that glycogen before it's stored as fat (which is the big fear of carbs in the evening).

    Eat as many meals as makes sense for your personal situation-if 6 small meals feels better to you and you have the time to manage them all, then go for it. If you prefer big meals and don't like breakfast, try out intermittent fasting (IF) where you eat between lunch and a later dinner only. Or go with a standard 3 meals a day, and perhaps a PWO shake if your workout doesn't time up with one of those meals. The key is to eat enough of the right things throughout the day to support muscle recovery and growth, on top of whatever you already need. How you eat it is up to you.
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    « Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 08:35:12 AM »
    Ok guys well i respect your opinions, but i am talking from experience and results, as maybe you are. Also have a read of this http://highlifeworkout.com/ scroll to the half naked chick. Next you will be telling me that this guy is wrong too, when he has a killer physique. Again this has worked best for me, but granted may not for another.
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    « Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 08:38:00 AM »
    Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
    Ok guys well i respect your opinions, but i am talking from experience and results, as maybe you are. Also have a read of this http://highlifeworkout.com/ scroll to the half naked chick. Next you will be telling me that this guy is wrong too, when he has a killer physique. Again this has worked best for me, but granted may not for another.

    It isn't opinions it's facts, studies have shown no different in X meals vs X meals all that matters in the end of the day is that you've reached your requirements, and just because someone has a good physique doesn't it mean he's right.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 08:40:59 AM »
    Quote from: fabbe on January 20, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
    Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
    Ok guys well i respect your opinions, but i am talking from experience and results, as maybe you are. Also have a read of this http://highlifeworkout.com/ scroll to the half naked chick. Next you will be telling me that this guy is wrong too, when he has a killer physique. Again this has worked best for me, but granted may not for another.

    It isn't opinions it's facts, studies have shown no different in X meals vs X meals all that matters in the end of the day is that you've reached your requirements, and just because someone has a good physique doesn't it mean he's right.




    Fair enough, but like i said experience on my behalf. I have done the 3 meals a day , i have tried fasting, and i can say without a shadow of a doubt that since i started with 6 meals, then i am in the best shape of my life.
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    « Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 08:44:19 AM »
    Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
    Quote from: fabbe on January 20, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
    Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
    Ok guys well i respect your opinions, but i am talking from experience and results, as maybe you are. Also have a read of this http://highlifeworkout.com/ scroll to the half naked chick. Next you will be telling me that this guy is wrong too, when he has a killer physique. Again this has worked best for me, but granted may not for another.

    It isn't opinions it's facts, studies have shown no different in X meals vs X meals all that matters in the end of the day is that you've reached your requirements, and just because someone has a good physique doesn't it mean he's right.




    Fair enough, but like i said experience on my behalf. I have done the 3 meals a day , i have tried fasting, and i can say without a shadow of a doubt that since i started with 6 meals, then i am in the best shape of my life.

    Well if it works then keep at it Smiley
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    « Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 08:45:10 AM »
    Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
    Ok guys well i respect your opinions, but i am talking from experience and results, as maybe you are. Also have a read of this http://highlifeworkout.com/ scroll to the half naked chick. Next you will be telling me that this guy is wrong too, when he has a killer physique. Again this has worked best for me, but granted may not for another.


    Your site doesn't prove your point.

    This will prove mine:

    Here are some peer-reviewed studies on meal frequency:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
    This study shows there was no difference in weight loss between subjects with high/low meal frequencies.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    Evidence supports that meal frequency has nothing to do with energy in the subjects.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11319656
    Yet again, no difference in energy in the subjects compared to 2 meals/d to 6 meals/d.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1905998
    Eur J Clin Nutr. 1991 Mar;45(3):161-9.Links
    Influence of the feeding frequency on nutrient utilization in man: consequences for energy metabolism.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11319656
    Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2001 Apr;25(4):519-28.Links
    Compared with nibbling, neither gorging nor a morning fast affect short-term energy balance in obese patients in a chamber calorimeter.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18053311
    Br J Nutr. 2008 Jun;99(6):1316-21. Epub 2007 Dec 6. Links
    Acute effects on metabolism and appetite profile of one meal difference in the lower range of meal frequency.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1905998
    Eur J Clin Nutr. 1991 Mar;45(3):161-9.Links
    Influence of the feeding frequency on nutrient utilization in man: consequences for energy metabolism.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11319656
    Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2001 Apr;25(4):519-28.Links
    Compared with nibbling, neither gorging nor a morning fast affect short-term energy balance in obese patients in a chamber calorimeter.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18053311
    Br J Nutr. 2008 Jun;99(6):1316-21. Epub 2007 Dec 6. Links
    Acute effects on metabolism and appetite profile of one meal difference in the lower range of meal frequency.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    Br J Nutr. 1997 Apr;77 Suppl 1:S57-70. Links
    Meal frequency and energy balance.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15806828
    Forum Nutr. 2003;56:126-8.Links
    Highlighting the positive impact of increasing feeding frequency on metabolism and weight management.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9504318
    Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 1998 Feb;22(2):105-12.Links
    Evidence that eating frequency is inversely related to body weight status in male, but not female, non-obese adults reporting valid dietary intakes.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15085170
    Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2004 May;28(5):653-60. Links
    Decreased thermic effect of food after an irregular compared with a regular meal pattern in healthy lean women.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15220950
    Eur J Clin Nutr. 2004 Jul;58(7):1071-7. Links
    Regular meal frequency creates more appropriate insulin sensitivity and lipid profiles compared with irregular meal frequency in healthy lean women.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17228037
    Obesity (Silver Spring). 2007 Jan;15(1):100-6. Links
    Association of eating frequency with body fatness in pre- and postmenopausal women.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15640455
    Am J Clin Nutr. 2005 Jan;81(1):16-24. Links
    Comment in:
    Am J Clin Nutr. 2005 Jan;81(1):3-4.
    Beneficial metabolic effects of regular meal frequency on dietary thermogenesis, insulin sensitivity, and fasting lipid profiles in healthy obese women.


    http://www.ajcn.org/content/90/5/1244.full

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    « Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 08:50:54 AM »
    I appreciate all the links, But doesn't scooby recommend to eat 5-6 meals a day? and also all the pro bodybuilders do aswell, im genuinely curious rather than trying to make an argument Smiley
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    « Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 08:54:18 AM »
    Quote from: Vesh on January 20, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
    I appreciate all the links, But doesn't scooby recommend to eat 5-6 meals a day? and also all the pro bodybuilders do aswell, im genuinely curious rather than trying to make an argument Smiley
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