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« on: September 07, 2010, 08:42:43 AM »

hi im going to get a protein shake tomorow and would just like to check if this is the way i would eat and consume one in my daily diet.
is this ok or would i be consuming far to much protein?

breakfast: rather big porrige

protein shake (body fortress presigned engineering whey) http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=100&prodid=564

snack: apple maybe or something?

lunch: chicken & pasta e.t.c

snack:  apple and other random stuff i fancy

dinner: wot ever im given normally a roast dinner or curry or chilli e.t.c with vegies

 btw i can eat alot and hide it away i have a fast metabilism im tryiing to put on muscle and not lose any weight!
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 08:53:53 AM »

please someone  reply, i just would like someones perspective on this, soz for sounding desperate  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 09:40:03 AM »

How old are you, how long have you been working out for? If you're a beginner, you don't really need protein powders, also look at the ingredients, to see if it contains anything bad. You don't want something that contains bad stuff also not something that has way way too much sugar in it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 10:01:01 AM »

well im 18 ive been working out for bout a yr seriously but have never botherd to have protein shakes and would like to try it but i just wanted to check if this is how i would go about doing it, if that makes sense
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 10:08:32 AM »

I use my protein powder after workouts with a banana on the side. But sometimes I have some powder with my oatmeal just to add a little extra protein to it.
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    « Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 10:11:21 AM »

    well how did this nutrition work out for you so far? personally, i would never eat like this but the difference is that im losing fat rite now. your breakfast is alrite and you eat meat at lunch/dinner too which is also good. from time to time try to substitute tuna or salmon - theyre very high in protein and have omega 3 which is even better for you

    if you fancy more protein, try to eat some canned beans as a snack or something like that, or cottage cheese which is awesome for protein. put fruit into the cottage cheese and it will taste great and is nutritious
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    « Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 10:48:15 AM »

    Yes indeed cottage cheese with fruit is great. I eat it like 2 hours before I go to bed, I put the cheese in the mixer, pour in some milk in it to make it a little more drinkable/yoghurt like. Then I put a whole banana + 1 1/2 handful of blueberries in Cheesy
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    « Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 10:48:55 AM »

    ah ha dude i couldnt do that, sounds rank lol
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    « Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 10:51:39 AM »

    haha its actually better than it sounds Wink i eat cottage cheese with a lot of stuff, i love it and its so great. go for non-fat cottage cheese, it tastes pretty much like nothing
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    « Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 10:57:08 AM »

    Can also use it for dipping Smiley like get a plate of raw carrots, cucumber and a lot of other vegetables. When I make the dip I use those dipping bags and mix it with the cheese instead of that other stuff you're supposed to use.
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    « Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 11:22:39 AM »

    You don't want something that contains bad stuff also not something that has way way too much sugar in it.

    What he is trying to say is that you do not want too much stuff with too many ingredients that you cannot pronounce.

    Now to your question;

    Having 5-8 meals a day is advised not because it will keep you full or because its easier and quicker to prepare or consume than three large meals, it is advised in order for your body to have a constant supply of nutrients and proteins throughout the day. Just as a side note; protein is very important in muscle building (but do not disregard everything else) See when you eat three large meals you do supply your body with all the needed nutrients for body building (if you eat right) but the body does not have a "lets keep this for another 3-4 hours" program in it. The body pushes everything down regardless of your plans for body building. Because of this, the 60grams of protein that you may have eaten during lunch, maybe 40g will be absorbed because the other 20grams will pass through your small intestine too quickly (small intestine is where the nutrients get absorbed) That is why it is advised to eat every three hours or so, so your body will contantly get the nutrients and protein it requires for building muscle.

    Do not be mislead, however, not all protein types are the same. There is regular proteins which take 1-3hours to digest and absorb (the stuff in foods), there are protein isolates which get digested and absorbed quickly (whey protein powders), and casein protein which gets digested and absorbed very slowly something like 3-8hours (the stuff in dairy products) At times like post workout, you would want protein isolates so that the protein may reach your muscles quickly and aid their repair. During meals throughout the day you would want regular protein, found in meats and such. Before bed (since it’s the longest time of you being inactive and unable to get protein from food) you would want casein protein because it digests very slowly, this way you got a constant supply of protein through the night. Like I already said, casein protein may be found in dairy products.

    If you understand that, take a look at my meal plan. I eat seven meals a day, each of which is fairly balanced.

    6:00 AM - Protein shake with one scoop of whey, ~250mL fat free milk mixed with ~250mL of water. Then I return to bed for ~2.5 hours, so dont think I sleep for only 5hours.
    Value : ~220calories, 32g protein

    9:00 AM - Either protein pancakes, Kashi Cereal with Greek yogurt and milk or oatmeal with whey.
    Value : ~250-350calories, ~30g protein

    10:30 AM - 11:30 AM - Workout

    12:00 (Noon) - Protein milkshake made of one frozen banana, ~250mL fat free milk, one scoop of whey, and some other frozen fruit (mostly blueberries or cranberries)
    Value : ~350calories, 34g protein

    16:00 PM - Some sort of grain (about one cup) with frozen vegetables and ~4-5oz chicken breast.
    Value : ~500calories, ~32-40g protein

    19:00 PM - Usualy scrambled egg whites with either ~4oz shrimp or can of tuna with frozen vegetables (cook it all on the skillet)
    Value : ~300calories, ~35g protein

    22:00 PM - ~60g of dried roasted soybeans
    Value : ~340calories, 32g protein

    01:00 AM - ~250mL fat free cottage cheese
    Value : ~200calories, 30g protein

    Total Value (from what I listed) : ~2150-2250calories, ~225-235g protein

    The 2100 or so calories a day aren’t my TDEE. I eat a lot of fruit and a teaspoon, or two, of peanut butter as well which easily bumps my intake to ~3100 which is what I need. I also drink 5-6L of water a day. Keep in mind that all of these meals change regularly, so it does have quite a bit of variety. For instance, I often make salmon and replace the chicken for it. My parents also like to grill a lot in the summer months so I eat a lot of red meat as well. The grains, I change them up each time I finished whatever I cooked before.


    If you dislike the foods that I eat, or want some more variety in your diet, here is a list of high protein foods;
    Meats (I consider poultry and fish as meat too):
    Chicken or Turkey breast (these are the leanest parts of both birds), Tuna (in water), Chicken or turkey hearts (you might want to cut off the fat off of these, the white slimy parts), Chicken, turkey or cow livers (cut off the fats too), Ham (try to find smoked ham, the stuff they sell in most stores are highly processed), Shrimp, Salmon, Flounder (fish), sturgeon.
    You should have steak once in a while too. Those meats (red meats) contain nutrients that some white meats do not. So if youre having a cook out, and there is a mouth watering ribeye steak being offered, go ahead and eat some.

    Dairy and Eggs :
    Low fat or fat free milk, Skimmed milk, low fat or fat free cheese (these may pose a challenge to find), Low fat or fat free cottage cheese or white cheese (white cheese many times comes in semi liquid form, its up to you if you like cottage cheese or white cheese more), Low fat or fat free chocolate milk (watch the sugar content though) Yogurts (I prefer Greek yogurt, they are the most natural ones you can find at most stores) Yogurt (go for Greek yogurt, its the least processed and with lowest fat and highest protein per serving) Eggs (I try to eat egg whites only) They actually cell pure egg whites in grocery stores in carton bottles now, so if you want to get some quick egg whites that the stuff right there.

    Grains :
    White rice, Brown rice, Buckwheat, Couscous, Quinoa, Oatmeal.
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    « Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 01:53:24 PM »

    *WOW you aren't affraid to eat much, i couldn't eat hearts and that lol, thanks for the reply dude it was really helpful!!

    you say u have around 225G of protein a day, thats quite a bit, i dont think i get close to that maybe 120g at the max i think, ill have to work it out.
    i shall certainly give some of those foods ago.
    although i cant eat say 6 little meals like you have said as i have college. and for dinner i have to eat whats on my plate as my dad says a man needs a hearty meal lool!!
    but i can have little snacks like protein bars, fruits and shakes that can take the place of one of those meals?, would that be sufficent?

    and basicly i want to indrudce protein to my body every 3-4 hours ish?     quick digesting (whey) after workout and maybe before? and slow digesting over sleep.   and every serving around 20-30g of  protein.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 05:44:45 PM »

    See thats the thing... I go to college too. I often eat my 4th and 5th meals at school, university to be exact. I bring the food in plastic containers and have to eat it somewhat cold, but thats alright with me. My goals are clear in my mind, and I will do what is needed to achieve them. Many people try to find an excuse to not be as dedicated, like school or family. Whilst I agree that sometimes its very hard to convince your family to eat the way you want to eat due to traditions and such, or economic circumstances, but most of the time you can bend it in order to get what you want, or need. My father doesnt believe in this whole idea of six or seven meals a day either, but I dont care. I do it because I saw how successful those who did it are, and I want the same results.

    Protein shakes and bars could replace meals, but its not going to satisfy your hunger. Not for long at least. A shake might work, but you Must make sure you have some sort of carbs with it, like a fruit or something of the sort. While the bar doesnt need any carb source, it just simply will not make you full. You might feel satisfied for an hour, but after that you will realize your stomach is empty and you will have cravings. From personal experience; cravings are diet killers. When I feel hungry I can go and mow down pounds of food, and thousands of calories within minutes and then just feeling like a complete fool for not being able to control a simple feeling.
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    « Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 12:55:22 AM »

    yea! i got ya thanks man!
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