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« on: January 24, 2012, 08:53:02 PM »

I've been using extra virgin olive oil .. just wondering what you guys to lets say cook brown rice in a pan ,do u use a different oil? how does it taste ?

How about your chicken? do you boil it? or do you fry it with oil on a pan?

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    « Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 09:44:46 PM »

    I am a heavy user of butter for everything pan frying. I reserve olive oil mostly for salad dressings and other 'raw' applications.

    But whatever I do, I NEVER touch polyunsaturated vegetable oils. That shit is poison.
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    « Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 09:46:43 PM »

    Coconut oil is the best source of fat around.
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    « Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 09:59:51 PM »

    eh!!! poly is ok, have not tried it but spose to run the 4b  Tongue

    Olive oil is good to stick with, I use olive oil spread mostly..
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    « Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 10:30:16 PM »

    Butter.
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    « Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 11:38:27 PM »

    Olive oil is the best
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    « Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 12:51:29 AM »

    Rapeseed oil ( Grin) and butter.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 01:17:36 AM »

    Everyone knoooows it's Butters! "That's me" Smiley
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    « Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 02:45:58 AM »

    I am a heavy user of butter for everything pan frying. I reserve olive oil mostly for salad dressings and other 'raw' applications.

    But whatever I do, I NEVER touch polyunsaturated vegetable oils. That shit is poison.

    Ok, you said saturated fats are not bad. Thats right.
    But then why would PUFA be bad? Jus jokin or you saw some studies?
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    « Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 02:46:41 AM »

    Coconut oil is the best source of fat around.
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    « Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 02:57:33 AM »

    rapeseed oil, sunflower oil, linseed oil, olive oil, peanut oil, salfo oil, soy oil... I change, I always have 2-3 oils at home. Some oild have a better composition of fatty acids, others have more vitamin e. every oil has its benefits.

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    « Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 03:00:59 AM »

    g`day surya, PUFA are thicker molecules, harder to absorb and raise the bad cholesterol levels in the blood, Rani may have more details  Smiley
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    « Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 03:09:25 AM »

    I did hear Paul Chek mention durung a lecture to vary oils to get benefit as the body absorbs each differently, he mainly mentions olive, flax and canola oils
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    « Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 03:43:17 AM »

    Ok, you said saturated fats are not bad. Thats right.
    But then why would PUFA be bad? Jus jokin or you saw some studies?

    Definitely not joking. PUFA-dominant vegetable oils are rubbish.

    I wrote on PUFAs in another thread:

    Numerous studies have found the consumption of heated vegetable oils substantially increases free-radical activity in both animals and humans.
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12464727
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3839887
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1959823
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9430612
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10478930
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11755938
    - http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v53/n7/abs/1600783a.html
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9844997

    So it comes as no surprise that LDL particles carrying more PUFAs are more susceptible to oxidative damage, forming into oxidized-LDL (oxLDL) a major risk-factor for CHD.
    - http://www.ajcn.org/content/54/4/701.full.pdf
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8925192

    Anyone with even a superficial grasp of biochemistry will understand the mechanism behind this process. All fats are comprised of fatty-acids. And each fatty-acid contains a chain of carbon atoms. The exception is the carbon atoms at either end of the fatty acid chain, one has three hydrogens atoms while the other has one hydrogen and two oxygen atoms. When all of the carbon atoms except the two on either end of the fatty acid chain have two hydrogen atoms, this constitutes a saturated fatty acid (SFA). Now, when a fatty acid contains one or more carbon atoms that are missing one of its hydrogen atoms, this particular fatty acid is called an unsaturated fatty acid. Thus, those carbon atoms possessing a lone hydrogen atoms are referred to as double bonds. It is these double bonds that attract free radicals and make unsaturated fats far more vulnerable to oxidative damage than a saturated fatty acid. PUFAs which contain two or more double bonds are therefore the most prone to free radical damage. MUFAs contain only one double bond, therefore making them less prone to oxidative damage than PUFAs. Ergo, SFAs which are completely devoid of double bonds are the most chemically stable and thus safest fatty acid.

    To add another important point, in a meticulous double-blind RCT that lasted 8 years, cancer incidence was significantly higher in the PUFA group than the animal fat group and amazingly showed no association with smoking (http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/40/1S2/II-1).

    And excess consumption suppresses the production of anti-inflammatory and vasodilatory eicosanoids like PGI2 which also boosts the activity of pro-inflammatory, thrombotic and vasoconstrictive eicosanoids like TXA2. There is much much much more about inflammation and endothelial function but that's its fairly complex issue.

    Bottom line is, for those that mentioned butter and coconut oil, right on. It has been perfectly designed that those who eat an evolutionary based diet consisting of animal flesh including the fat, nuts and eggs obtain sufficient amounts of PUFAs to satisfy the EFA requirement.
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    « Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 04:15:08 AM »

    Ok, you said saturated fats are not bad. Thats right.
    But then why would PUFA be bad? Jus jokin or you saw some studies?

    Definitely not joking. PUFA-dominant vegetable oils are rubbish.

    I wrote on PUFAs in another thread:

    Numerous studies have found the consumption of heated vegetable oils substantially increases free-radical activity in both animals and humans.
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12464727
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3839887
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1959823
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9430612
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10478930
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11755938
    - http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v53/n7/abs/1600783a.html
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9844997

    So it comes as no surprise that LDL particles carrying more PUFAs are more susceptible to oxidative damage, forming into oxidized-LDL (oxLDL) a major risk-factor for CHD.
    - http://www.ajcn.org/content/54/4/701.full.pdf
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8925192

    Anyone with even a superficial grasp of biochemistry will understand the mechanism behind this process. All fats are comprised of fatty-acids. And each fatty-acid contains a chain of carbon atoms. The exception is the carbon atoms at either end of the fatty acid chain, one has three hydrogens atoms while the other has one hydrogen and two oxygen atoms. When all of the carbon atoms except the two on either end of the fatty acid chain have two hydrogen atoms, this constitutes a saturated fatty acid (SFA). Now, when a fatty acid contains one or more carbon atoms that are missing one of its hydrogen atoms, this particular fatty acid is called an unsaturated fatty acid. Thus, those carbon atoms possessing a lone hydrogen atoms are referred to as double bonds. It is these double bonds that attract free radicals and make unsaturated fats far more vulnerable to oxidative damage than a saturated fatty acid. PUFAs which contain two or more double bonds are therefore the most prone to free radical damage. MUFAs contain only one double bond, therefore making them less prone to oxidative damage than PUFAs. Ergo, SFAs which are completely devoid of double bonds are the most chemically stable and thus safest fatty acid.

    To add another important point, in a meticulous double-blind RCT that lasted 8 years, cancer incidence was significantly higher in the PUFA group than the animal fat group and amazingly showed no association with smoking (http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/40/1S2/II-1).

    And excess consumption suppresses the production of anti-inflammatory and vasodilatory eicosanoids like PGI2 which also boosts the activity of pro-inflammatory, thrombotic and vasoconstrictive eicosanoids like TXA2. There is much much much more about inflammation and endothelial function but that's its fairly complex issue.

    Bottom line is, for those that mentioned butter and coconut oil, right on. It has been perfectly designed that those who eat an evolutionary based diet consisting of animal flesh including the fat, nuts and eggs obtain sufficient amounts of PUFAs to satisfy the EFA requirement.


    Sorry if i am sounding ignorant. But that study about Mediterranean diet had concluded that the high quantity of PUFA was the prime reason for the low incidence/risk of CHD.
    I guess PUFA's are bad only if you heat them. Because in the Mediterranean diet, olive oil (which is almost entirely PUFA) was mostly used raw without heating.
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