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    « Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 04:29:00 AM »

    Olive oil is mostly MUFA, surya Cheesy.

    Are you referring to the Lyon Diet-Heart trial? Because they achieved incredible reductions in CHD and all-cause mortality by improving the n-6/3 ratio. In other words, limiting PUFA-vegetable oils and eating more fish.
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    « Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 05:46:13 AM »

    Olive oil is mostly MUFA, surya Cheesy.

    Are you referring to the Lyon Diet-Heart trial? Because they achieved incredible reductions in CHD and all-cause mortality by improving the n-6/3 ratio. In other words, limiting PUFA-vegetable oils and eating more fish.


    Guess i was confused!  Grin

    And yes i am referring to the Lyon Diet-heart trial.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9989963

    But then, i remember reading that Olive oil was one of the most important causes for reducing risk/incidence of CHD.
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    « Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 07:44:06 AM »

    I eat extra virgin olive oil, rapeseed oil, coldpressed rapeseed oil, flaxseed oil, peanuts, almonds, wallnuts, fish oils, odo's choice. etc etc.

    PS: I don't do coconut oil as coconut fat is mostly saturated...
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    « Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 07:52:11 AM »

    PS: I don't do coconut oil as coconut fat is mostly saturated...

    Do coconut - http://www.askscooby.com/nutrition-39/the-truth-about-saturated-fat/
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    « Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 04:14:35 PM »




    ill try it out, do u use coconut oil ur self?
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    « Reply #20 on: January 25, 2012, 09:49:28 PM »

    Even the Gods use coconut oil!   Now prepare to have your mind blown:


    http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/coconut.htm
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    « Reply #21 on: January 25, 2012, 10:42:58 PM »



    Moderation is the keyword for everything. The thing is that I get a lot of saturated fat from: Beef, pork, cheese, eggs, minched meat in all forms, butter, etc. It's true that saturated fat is usefull, person just doesn't need tons of it.  ^_^
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    « Reply #22 on: January 25, 2012, 11:11:45 PM »

    Saturated fat is the safest oil to heat in any form. Those are the facts.
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    « Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 09:56:25 PM »

    Ok, you said saturated fats are not bad. Thats right.
    But then why would PUFA be bad? Jus jokin or you saw some studies?

    Definitely not joking. PUFA-dominant vegetable oils are rubbish.

    I wrote on PUFAs in another thread:

    Numerous studies have found the consumption of heated vegetable oils substantially increases free-radical activity in both animals and humans.
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12464727
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3839887
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1959823
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9430612
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10478930
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11755938
    - http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v53/n7/abs/1600783a.html
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9844997

    So it comes as no surprise that LDL particles carrying more PUFAs are more susceptible to oxidative damage, forming into oxidized-LDL (oxLDL) a major risk-factor for CHD.
    - http://www.ajcn.org/content/54/4/701.full.pdf
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8925192

    Anyone with even a superficial grasp of biochemistry will understand the mechanism behind this process. All fats are comprised of fatty-acids. And each fatty-acid contains a chain of carbon atoms. The exception is the carbon atoms at either end of the fatty acid chain, one has three hydrogens atoms while the other has one hydrogen and two oxygen atoms. When all of the carbon atoms except the two on either end of the fatty acid chain have two hydrogen atoms, this constitutes a saturated fatty acid (SFA). Now, when a fatty acid contains one or more carbon atoms that are missing one of its hydrogen atoms, this particular fatty acid is called an unsaturated fatty acid. Thus, those carbon atoms possessing a lone hydrogen atoms are referred to as double bonds. It is these double bonds that attract free radicals and make unsaturated fats far more vulnerable to oxidative damage than a saturated fatty acid. PUFAs which contain two or more double bonds are therefore the most prone to free radical damage. MUFAs contain only one double bond, therefore making them less prone to oxidative damage than PUFAs. Ergo, SFAs which are completely devoid of double bonds are the most chemically stable and thus safest fatty acid.

    To add another important point, in a meticulous double-blind RCT that lasted 8 years, cancer incidence was significantly higher in the PUFA group than the animal fat group and amazingly showed no association with smoking (http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/40/1S2/II-1).

    And excess consumption suppresses the production of anti-inflammatory and vasodilatory eicosanoids like PGI2 which also boosts the activity of pro-inflammatory, thrombotic and vasoconstrictive eicosanoids like TXA2. There is much much much more about inflammation and endothelial function but that's its fairly complex issue.

    Bottom line is, for those that mentioned butter and coconut oil, right on. It has been perfectly designed that those who eat an evolutionary based diet consisting of animal flesh including the fat, nuts and eggs obtain sufficient amounts of PUFAs to satisfy the EFA requirement.


    Sorry if i am sounding ignorant. But that study about Mediterranean diet had concluded that the high quantity of PUFA was the prime reason for the low incidence/risk of CHD.
    I guess PUFA's are bad only if you heat them. Because in the Mediterranean diet, olive oil (which is almost entirely PUFA) was mostly used raw without heating.
    yea i agree with you makes sense cept the part about sounding ignorant Smiley i heard PUFAs are good for you except if they reach smoke point which makes em cancerous, which makes me wonder what if you put it in the water thats boiling your spaghetti noodles (like most ppl do no?) does boiling the olive oil make it reach smoke point?
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    « Reply #24 on: February 04, 2012, 11:33:24 AM »

    does boiling the olive oil make it reach smoke point?
    No... water boiling temp = 100C.  Olive oil smoke point >200C.
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    « Reply #25 on: February 04, 2012, 05:16:10 PM »

    When I first saw this thread I thought it meant ‘What type of oil do you use for competitions’?  My friend always sprays himself down with PAM before a show.  Forgot this was in Nutrition
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    « Reply #26 on: February 04, 2012, 05:40:32 PM »

    I personally like how olive oil tastes in conjunction with every meat except beef.  For beef, I typically use canola oil with butter flavor.
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