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« on: October 26, 2010, 02:33:42 AM »

5 meals a day.

1st and last meal being this smoothie:
cottage cheese,
peanut butter,
mlik,
a banana,
porridge oats

2nd meal
Soya beans
boiled potatoes

3rd meal
Black beans
brown rice

4th meal
Varies. I was thinking of having more beans, but if I did would my diet be lacking certain nutrients?

5th meal
Same as first

Any ideas for fourth meal? Any ideas for good things to go with beans? Am I missing any nutrients? I'll sometimes have baby carrots or peas with meal 4.

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    « Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 02:47:16 AM »

    Are you a vegetarian? If not you're definitely missing meat, especially chicken or turkey. Good sources of protein and some minerals you're missing.

    If you are a vegetarian, do you still eat fish? Fish probably is one of the best sources for protein out there, especially salmon or tuna. Very low in cals, very high in protein and rich in omega 3 which is necessary fat (omega 3 fatty acids aid the repair of muscle tissues).
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    « Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 02:48:58 AM »

    Add some eggs in there if you're vegetarian. You're obviously not a vegan so I assume you'd not have problem with eggs.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 26, 2010, 02:52:16 AM »

    Thanks for the fast replies.

    Yes, forgot to say I'm a vegetarian (but not a vegan!). No fish, either.

    Eggs are a good, idea thanks.

    I think protein-wise I'm ship shape, getting my 150g easily enough. I was more wondering whether or not it's healthy to have so many beans? are there some things beans lack that I need to make up for with meal 4?

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    « Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 02:55:59 AM »

    If you can handle so much fiber, it's okay. I couldn't. And there are nutrients that most plant sources lack, and eggs are best option for a vegetarian to make up for it (Go with the yolks).
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    « Reply #5 on: October 26, 2010, 03:00:06 AM »

    the only nutrient you cant get from plant sources (because of the use of chemicals and overfarming of land) is b12.

    @op- you need to add dark green veg and nuts.


    nino.....why would a VEGETARIAN eat fish?
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    « Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 03:04:04 AM »

    the only nutrient you cant get from plant sources (because of the use of chemicals and overfarming of land) is b12.

    @op- you need to add dark green veg and nuts.


    nino.....why would a VEGETARIAN eat fish?

    This really irritates me, I don't see how some people can think that fish(and or poultry) is not meat.
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    « Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 03:05:43 AM »

    Eggs, dark green veg and nuts... thanks a lot fellas  Smiley

    As for the fish - vegetarian thing I'm used to it  Wink
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    « Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 03:18:55 AM »

    Many people don't consider fish as meat. Personally I do think that's stupid but I guess it's an excuse they make but there are a lot of vegetarians out there who still eat fish. That's why I asked.


    Back to the topic, eating so many beans isn't bad, they're high in protein, good complex carbs and low in fat/cals. However, they're no source of complete proteins but the brown rice makes up for it, as grains and legumes add up to a source of complete proteins. You could eat wholegrain spaghetti as your 4th meal so you get all the amino acids you need and it's a different meal as well so you're not getting bored.
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    « Reply #9 on: October 26, 2010, 08:04:33 AM »

    I'd like to see how you could get your required riboflavin from plant sources. Eat 1kg of beans a day? 200g almonds? 1kg walnuts? How to get MK-4 (One of the variations of K-2 and has unique tasks)? Then there are things you can *on paper* get from plants, but your body can't absorb (Low bioavailability) or make conversions to use them. For instance, I've seen people here worrying about vitamin A poisoning for eating too many potatoes, but nobody even says your body converts carotenes (Found in vegies) to retinol, which is found in animals, and many people can't do it effectively. I'd also add DHA, zinc, iron, B-16 (Shocking) to the "be careful" list on a plant based diet.

    A few eggs a day will help you on these significantly.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 26, 2010, 12:31:28 PM »

    picking the first one
    You should be able to get all the riboflavin you need from your daily diet. This is approximately:

    1.3 mg a day for men
    1.1 mg a day for women

    Good sources of riboflavin include whole grains, mushrooms, almonds, leafy green vegetables and yeast extracts.

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000109000000000000000-1.html?<- scroll through the list there are plenty of easy vegan/vege sources (you'll see a normal serving of beans will give you almost all you need). SO lets stop exaggerating things, ok?

    i'm not going to bother doing the rest, if people care enough they can find their own info Smiley
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    « Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 01:16:32 PM »

    This diet is missing protein
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    « Reply #13 on: October 26, 2010, 09:35:46 PM »

    This diet is missing protein
    Are you kidding ?
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    « Reply #14 on: October 26, 2010, 09:56:57 PM »

    Good sources of riboflavin include whole grains, mushrooms, almonds, leafy green vegetables and yeast extracts.

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000109000000000000000-1.html?<- scroll through the list there are plenty of easy vegan/vege sources (you'll see a normal serving of beans will give you almost all you need). SO lets stop exaggerating things, ok?


    Exaggeration? Things you listed (In your order, from the website you linked):

    Grains
    Brown rice, 1 cup -> 10% of Riboflavin needs
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5706/2
    Rye, 1 cup -> 25% of riboflavin
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5727/2
    Whole wheat spaghetti, 1 cup -> 4%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5784/2
    Corn flour, whole grain, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5795/2
    Oats, 1 cup -> 13%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5708/2

    Go eat your enriched cereals, or take vitamin pills, but don't tell me grains themselves are #1 source of riboflavin.

    Mushrooms
    White mushroom, 1 cup -> 17%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2482/2
    Enoki mushroom, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/3016/2
    Oyster mushroom, 1 cup -> 18%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/3050/2

    Almonds
    Raw almonds, 100g -> 57%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3085/2
    Oil roasted almonds, 100g -> 46%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3088/2
    Dry roasted almonds, 100g -> 51%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3170/2
    Blanched almonds, 100g -> 33%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3086/2
    Almond butter, 100g -> 36%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3153/2
    (Never claimed almonds didn't have it, read my post above, I said you needed 200g of almonds daily, speaking of calories)

    Green leafy vegetables
    Cooked spinach, 1 cup (180g) -> 25%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2627/2
    Swiss chard, 1 cup -> 9%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2400/2
    One cooked leek -> 1%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2870/2
    Cooked cabbage, 100g ->2%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2372/2

    Check the rest for yourself.

    Won't even get into yeasts, since nobody uses them everyday on a regular basis - And even when you do, say you used a tsp of it in a product, you need to eat the whole thing to get all it has. Doesn't make sense to me.

    Beans
    Cooked yardlong beans, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4400/2
    Cooked winged beans, 1 cup -> 13%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4473/2
    Cooked mungo beans, 1 cup -> 8%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4352/2
    Cooked lima beans, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4340/2
    Cooked pinto beans, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4312/2
    Cooked navy beans, 1 cup -> 7%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4307/2
    Cooked kidney beans, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4297/2
    Cooked cranberry (roman) beans, 1 cup -> 7%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4289/2
    Cooked black beans, 1 cup -> 6%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4284/2

    Now my sources
    Eggs, 1 cup -> 68%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/111/2
    Cooked beef liver, 1 slice, only 68 damn grams -> 137%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3469/2
    Cooked chicken liver, 100g -> 117%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/poultry-products/667/2
    Beef kidney, 3 oz only -> 149%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3467/2
    Salmon, 1/2 fillet -> 44%
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/finfish-and-shellfish-products/4231/2

    etc etc. And riboflavin is one of the least problematic nutrients to get from plants. Let's not even get into the others.
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