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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2012, 05:50:13 AM » |
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Steroid use is illegal in the U.S. Therefore folks who take steroids will, unless they are very dumb, say they are natural.
They have no choice: if they are honest they will lose their jobs, and risk being sent to jail.
If you want to get an idea as to whether people are natural, you should look at pictures of the old-time bodybuilders. Google "Sandow Site" and you be able to read lots of copyright free books from the pre-steroid era. Are you implying that John Cena is natural or a steroid user?  The only person who knows is John Cena. So he may be drug free? :3 Well ... having read plenty of wrestling autobiographies, and having read about the WWE's 1990s steroid scandal, I'd be more shocked if it turned out that he had never taken steroids ... Cena is the same height as Arnie, but heavier. Arnie took roids ... draw your own conclusions.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2012, 05:52:36 AM » |
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Steroid use is illegal in the U.S. Therefore folks who take steroids will, unless they are very dumb, say they are natural.
They have no choice: if they are honest they will lose their jobs, and risk being sent to jail.
If you want to get an idea as to whether people are natural, you should look at pictures of the old-time bodybuilders. Google "Sandow Site" and you be able to read lots of copyright free books from the pre-steroid era. Are you implying that John Cena is natural or a steroid user?  The only person who knows is John Cena. So he may be drug free? :3 Well ... having read plenty of wrestling autobiographies, and having read about the WWE's 1990s steroid scandal, I'd be more shocked if it turned out that he had never taken steroids ... Cena is the same height as Arnie, but heavier. Arnie took roids ... draw your own conclusions. That's a nice vague reply. 
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2012, 06:15:24 AM » |
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so john cena is not natural bodybuilder maybe he take HGH because he has really huge hand and wrist and jaw and he has the same weight and height as Arnold . Arnold is 1.88 cm , john cena 1.85 cm and john cena weight 250 lbs same Arnold 250 lbs so he take drug
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2012, 06:22:34 AM » |
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Steroid use is illegal in the U.S. Therefore folks who take steroids will, unless they are very dumb, say they are natural.
They have no choice: if they are honest they will lose their jobs, and risk being sent to jail.
If you want to get an idea as to whether people are natural, you should look at pictures of the old-time bodybuilders. Google "Sandow Site" and you be able to read lots of copyright free books from the pre-steroid era. Are you implying that John Cena is natural or a steroid user?  The only person who knows is John Cena. So he may be drug free? :3 Well ... having read plenty of wrestling autobiographies, and having read about the WWE's 1990s steroid scandal, I'd be more shocked if it turned out that he had never taken steroids ... Cena is the same height as Arnie, but heavier. Arnie took roids ... draw your own conclusions. That's a nice vague reply.  It's not possible to deal with absolutes -- the only person who can know for sure is Cena. But look at the bodies of the old timers, look at the stats of the old timers, then draw your own sensible conclusions.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 06:24:41 AM » |
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so john cena is not natural bodybuilder maybe he take HGH because he has really huge hand and wrist and jaw and he has the same weight and height as Arnold . Arnold is 1.88 cm , john cena 1.85 cm and john cena weight 250 lbs same Arnold 250 lbs so he take drug
i see. Steroid use is illegal in the U.S. Therefore folks who take steroids will, unless they are very dumb, say they are natural.
They have no choice: if they are honest they will lose their jobs, and risk being sent to jail.
If you want to get an idea as to whether people are natural, you should look at pictures of the old-time bodybuilders. Google "Sandow Site" and you be able to read lots of copyright free books from the pre-steroid era. Are you implying that John Cena is natural or a steroid user?  The only person who knows is John Cena. So he may be drug free? :3 Well ... having read plenty of wrestling autobiographies, and having read about the WWE's 1990s steroid scandal, I'd be more shocked if it turned out that he had never taken steroids ... Cena is the same height as Arnie, but heavier. Arnie took roids ... draw your own conclusions. That's a nice vague reply.  It's not possible to deal with absolutes -- the only person who can know for sure is Cena. But look at the bodies of the old timers, look at the stats of the old timers, then draw your own sensible conclusions. Just a yes or no will suffice.  The conclusion that comes to mind right now is I don't know.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 06:33:53 AM » |
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so john cena is not natural bodybuilder maybe he take HGH because he has really huge hand and wrist and jaw and he has the same weight and height as Arnold . Arnold is 1.88 cm , john cena 1.85 cm and john cena weight 250 lbs same Arnold 250 lbs so he take drug
i see. Steroid use is illegal in the U.S. Therefore folks who take steroids will, unless they are very dumb, say they are natural.
They have no choice: if they are honest they will lose their jobs, and risk being sent to jail.
If you want to get an idea as to whether people are natural, you should look at pictures of the old-time bodybuilders. Google "Sandow Site" and you be able to read lots of copyright free books from the pre-steroid era. Are you implying that John Cena is natural or a steroid user?  The only person who knows is John Cena. So he may be drug free? :3 Well ... having read plenty of wrestling autobiographies, and having read about the WWE's 1990s steroid scandal, I'd be more shocked if it turned out that he had never taken steroids ... Cena is the same height as Arnie, but heavier. Arnie took roids ... draw your own conclusions. That's a nice vague reply.  It's not possible to deal with absolutes -- the only person who can know for sure is Cena. But look at the bodies of the old timers, look at the stats of the old timers, then draw your own sensible conclusions. Just a yes or no will suffice.  The conclusion that comes to mind right now is I don't know. It's impossible to give a yes or a no, for obvious reasons. Steroid users lie because they can't afford to tell the truth -- what they are doing is a crime in the U.S. So all you can do is look into the subject and draw your own informed conclusions. Sometimes you'll be wrong. Other times the truth is obvious. Just to put things into context, here is a picture of one of the greats from the pre-steroid era, Eugene Sandow. If you don't use steroids, then this is the sort of body that can be built with hard work: 
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2012, 06:37:16 AM » |
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I think it's better to say I don't know rather than jump to a conclusion without basis. So, that's my conclusion. 
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2012, 07:11:35 AM » |
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If you look up his workout videos you will see that he actually trains properly, so it's certainly more likely that he is natural than some of the other pro wrestlers being natural. But as mentioned, nobody knows for sure.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2012, 07:52:54 AM » |
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If you look up his workout videos you will see that he actually trains properly, so it's certainly more likely that he is natural than some of the other pro wrestlers being natural. But as mentioned, nobody knows for sure.
Ye and he has bachelors degree in exercise physiology and he was a competitive bodybuilder before his wrestling career. His routine makes sense. Benches 400lbs Squats over 500lbs Deadlifts over 600lbs http://www.squidoo.com/john-cena-workoutDon't know the truth of those but said on the site.
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Age: 19 | Height: 180,3cm | Weight: 93kg Goal/Current: Deadlift= 215kg's/200kg's= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66Pv-3TvAUSquat= 200kg's/135kg's Bench press= 120kg's/107,5kg's Overhead press= 80kg's/72,5kg's Run a marathon this summer
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2012, 08:21:57 AM » |
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If you look up his workout videos you will see that he actually trains properly, so it's certainly more likely that he is natural than some of the other pro wrestlers being natural. But as mentioned, nobody knows for sure.
Ye and he has bachelors degree in exercise physiology and he was a competitive bodybuilder before his wrestling career. His routine makes sense. Benches 400lbs Squats over 500lbs Deadlifts over 600lbs http://www.squidoo.com/john-cena-workoutDon't know the truth of those but said on the site. I hadn't realised he had been a competitive bodybuilder. That's often a bad sign... I then found his pic -- see below. It seems very unlikely that he was natural. Why? As Scooby has pointed out before, looking at a person's level of fat free mass is a good way to spot a steroid user. In the pic below, Cena's fat free mass is clearly much higher than that of Steve Reeves, who is generally accepted as having obtained the highest amount of fat free mass that is possible without drugs. 
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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2012, 08:49:45 AM » |
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so john cena is not natural bodybuilder maybe he take HGH because he has really huge hand and wrist and jaw and he has the same weight and height as Arnold . Arnold is 1.88 cm , john cena 1.85 cm and john cena weight 250 lbs same Arnold 250 lbs so he take drug
Didn't know it isn't normal to have huge hands, wrists and jaw when you're a big male.  I myself happen to have big hands bigger than anyone I have compared with except my father. So I'm taking something, oh god no  ... It obviously comes from my father. Your height and weight argument is invalid, 3cm is not a difference which should be considered. Easily chances for same weight and even more. As said no one but him will know for sure 
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Age: 19 | Height: 180,3cm | Weight: 93kg Goal/Current: Deadlift= 215kg's/200kg's= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66Pv-3TvAUSquat= 200kg's/135kg's Bench press= 120kg's/107,5kg's Overhead press= 80kg's/72,5kg's Run a marathon this summer
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2012, 10:41:21 AM » |
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Dille you have very great body congratulations . even my dad have very big hand but he is short like 165 cm but weight like 95 kg which is 209lb
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2012, 06:22:10 PM » |
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2012, 08:10:52 PM » |
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I think he is on roids. He looks just as a pro bodybuilder, and they are on roids so i say he is.. Or at least he is in some kind of hormone treatment.
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2012, 11:18:24 PM » |
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If you look up his workout videos you will see that he actually trains properly, so it's certainly more likely that he is natural than some of the other pro wrestlers being natural. But as mentioned, nobody knows for sure.
Ye and he has bachelors degree in exercise physiology and he was a competitive bodybuilder before his wrestling career. His routine makes sense. Benches 400lbs Squats over 500lbs Deadlifts over 600lbs http://www.squidoo.com/john-cena-workoutDon't know the truth of those but said on the site. I hadn't realised he had been a competitive bodybuilder. That's often a bad sign... I then found his pic -- see below. It seems very unlikely that he was natural. Why? As Scooby has pointed out before, looking at a person's level of fat free mass is a good way to spot a steroid user. In the pic below, Cena's fat free mass is clearly much higher than that of Steve Reeves, who is generally accepted as having obtained the highest amount of fat free mass that is possible without drugs.  Well, look at his competition and his huge HGH stomach. He's playing in the roid-using big leagues, so it's more than likely he too was using, at the time at least.
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