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« on: May 07, 2010, 07:49:57 AM »

Hey all, I've been registered at this website for a while now and thought it's about time I started a progress diary Smiley. I'm 19 and from Leeds, UK. I'v been lifting since August 2nd 09 and I am loving it Smiley - Thank god for this website for all the help.

Current Equipment
1 Bench with leg attachment
3 Barbells
2 Curl Bars
3 sets of Dumbbells
1 Ab wheel

4x10kg
2x7.5kg
10x5kg
12x2.5kg
4x2kg
4x1.25kg
4x1kg
12x0.5kg
 

I currently follow a split routine and here it is:

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - 3x6-12
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Kickback - 3x6-12

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
T-bar Rows - 3x6-12
DB Rows - 3x6-12
DB Curls - 3x6-12
Hammer Curls - 3x6-12

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Ab Rollers - 3 x 6-12

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12
Side Raises - 3x6-12
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12

I currently ride my bike to and from work 2 times per week, which takes around 15-20 minutes which I class as my cardio Tongue

Today is shoulder day so I'll update this abit later tonight when I'v completed the workout Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 08:40:24 AM »

Shoulder press - 13kg - 12,12,8
Upright rows - 16kg - 12,12,10
Side Raises - 2.5kg - 11,9,7
Rear Row - 10kg - 12,10,8

Shoulder press and upright row's weight will be increased next week Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 08:44:44 AM »

Shoulder press - 13kg - 12,12,8
Upright rows - 16kg - 12,12,10
Side Raises - 2.5kg - 11,9,7
Rear Row - 10kg - 12,10,8

Shoulder press and upright row's weight will be increased next week Smiley

My advice would be to drop the side raises and only go to failure on the last set.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 08:48:52 AM »

Shoulder press - 13kg - 12,12,8
Upright rows - 16kg - 12,12,10
Side Raises - 2.5kg - 11,9,7
Rear Row - 10kg - 12,10,8

Shoulder press and upright row's weight will be increased next week Smiley

My advice would be to drop the side raises and only go to failure on the last set.

Don't quite understand, all of my last sets are to failure? the ones where I have done 12 on the first sets weren't until failure which means the weight needs up-ing? Cheers for the help though, exactly why i just started this up Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 08:52:11 AM »

Shoulder press - 13kg - 12,12,8
Upright rows - 16kg - 12,12,10
Side Raises - 2.5kg - 11,9,7
Rear Row - 10kg - 12,10,8

Shoulder press and upright row's weight will be increased next week Smiley

My advice would be to drop the side raises and only go to failure on the last set.

Don't quite understand, all of my last sets are to failure? the ones where I have done 12 on the first sets weren't until failure which means the weight needs up-ing? Cheers for the help though, exactly why i just started this up Smiley

What I mean is if you can do 12 reps on your first set to failure. Then your better doing one less rep on the first set to maximuse your reps on the subsequent sets.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2010, 08:58:18 AM »

Hey all, I've been registered at this website for a while now and thought it's about time I started a progress diary Smiley. I'm 19 and from Leeds, UK. I'v been lifting since August 2nd 09 and I am loving it Smiley - Thank god for this website for all the help.

Current Equipment
1 Bench with leg attachment
3 Barbells
2 Curl Bars
3 sets of Dumbbells

4x10kg
10x5kg
12x2.5kg
4x2kg
4x1.25kg
4x1kg
12x0.5kg
 

I currently follow a split routine and here it is:

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - (3x6-12 Increase sets to 5 and reps to 12 - 15)
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Kickback - 3x6-12 (Remove pointless isolation exercise)

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
T-bar Rows - 3x6-12
DB Rows - 3x6-12   (Remove your doing to much)
DB Curls - 3x6-12   (Choose between Hammer curls or DB curls)
Hammer Curls - 3x6-12

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Ab Rollers - 3 x 6-12 (not very effective, remove replace with bicycles for 2 nd ab and oblique exercise).

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15  Increase sets to 5Decrease reps to 8-12
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20    Increase sets to 5 Decrease reps to 8-12

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12
Side Raises - 3x6-12  (unnecessary you work them with wide grip upright rows.)
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12

I currently ride my bike to and from work 2 times per week, which takes around 15-20 minutes which I class as my cardio Tongue

Today is shoulder day so I'll update this abit later tonight when I'v completed the workout Smiley



This is one of the best workouts I've seen, but I've suggested some changes in bold.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 08:59:54 AM »

Shoulder press - 13kg - 12,12,8
Upright rows - 16kg - 12,12,10
Side Raises - 2.5kg - 11,9,7
Rear Row - 10kg - 12,10,8

Shoulder press and upright row's weight will be increased next week Smiley

My advice would be to drop the side raises and only go to failure on the last set.

Don't quite understand, all of my last sets are to failure? the ones where I have done 12 on the first sets weren't until failure which means the weight needs up-ing? Cheers for the help though, exactly why i just started this up Smiley

What I mean is if you can do 12 reps on your first set to failure. Then your better doing one less rep on the first set to maximuse your reps on the subsequent sets.
Ahhh ok cheers, I'l drop the side raises then Smiley and try it your way.
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2010, 09:04:13 AM »

Hey all, I've been registered at this website for a while now and thought it's about time I started a progress diary Smiley. I'm 19 and from Leeds, UK. I'v been lifting since August 2nd 09 and I am loving it Smiley - Thank god for this website for all the help.

Current Equipment
1 Bench with leg attachment
3 Barbells
2 Curl Bars
3 sets of Dumbbells

4x10kg
10x5kg
12x2.5kg
4x2kg
4x1.25kg
4x1kg
12x0.5kg
 

I currently follow a split routine and here it is:

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - (3x6-12 Increase sets to 5 and reps to 12 - 15)
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Kickback - 3x6-12 (Remove pointless isolation exercise)

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
T-bar Rows - 3x6-12
DB Rows - 3x6-12   (Remove your doing to much)
DB Curls - 3x6-12   (Choose between Hammer curls or DB curls)
Hammer Curls - 3x6-12

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Ab Rollers - 3 x 6-12 (not very effective, remove replace with bicycles for 2 nd ab and oblique exercise).

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15  Increase sets to 5Decrease reps to 8-12
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20    Increase sets to 5 Decrease reps to 8-12

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12
Side Raises - 3x6-12  (unnecessary you work them with wide grip upright rows.)
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12

I currently ride my bike to and from work 2 times per week, which takes around 15-20 minutes which I class as my cardio Tongue

Today is shoulder day so I'll update this abit later tonight when I'v completed the workout Smiley



This is one of the best workouts I've seen, but I've suggested some changes in bold.

Thanks, got alot of my ideas from the wolfs guide Smiley very helpful. I'll make the changes you've stated. This is exactly why I made this Diary....really thanks for the help Smiley appreciated + rep (well I would if it let me, everytime I click the love heart image it just moves my screen upwards and does nothing lol) :S
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 09:07:35 AM »

Hey all, I've been registered at this website for a while now and thought it's about time I started a progress diary Smiley. I'm 19 and from Leeds, UK. I'v been lifting since August 2nd 09 and I am loving it Smiley - Thank god for this website for all the help.

Current Equipment
1 Bench with leg attachment
3 Barbells
2 Curl Bars
3 sets of Dumbbells

4x10kg
10x5kg
12x2.5kg
4x2kg
4x1.25kg
4x1kg
12x0.5kg
 

I currently follow a split routine and here it is:

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - (3x6-12 Increase sets to 5 and reps to 12 - 15)
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Kickback - 3x6-12 (Remove pointless isolation exercise)

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
T-bar Rows - 3x6-12
DB Rows - 3x6-12   (Remove your doing to much)
DB Curls - 3x6-12   (Choose between Hammer curls or DB curls)
Hammer Curls - 3x6-12

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Ab Rollers - 3 x 6-12 (not very effective, remove replace with bicycles for 2 nd ab and oblique exercise).

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15  Increase sets to 5Decrease reps to 8-12
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20    Increase sets to 5 Decrease reps to 8-12

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12
Side Raises - 3x6-12  (unnecessary you work them with wide grip upright rows.)
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12

I currently ride my bike to and from work 2 times per week, which takes around 15-20 minutes which I class as my cardio Tongue

Today is shoulder day so I'll update this abit later tonight when I'v completed the workout Smiley



This is one of the best workouts I've seen, but I've suggested some changes in bold.

Thanks, got alot of my ideas from the wolfs guide Smiley very helpful. I'll make the changes you've stated. This is exactly why I made this Diary....really thanks for the help Smiley appreciated + rep

Aww thanks a lot man! Glad I could help. Btw I have this topic on notify so I'll be keeping an eye on you  Wink You have a great attitude and clearly know your stuff you'll do well.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 09:17:35 AM »

Haha, I'v gotten myself an online trainer Cheesy

Two days off now then back to it on monday Smiley Need to look into some good stretches as I was wanting to maybe spend 5-10 minutes on a Saturday stretching. Is a sign of tight hamstings not being able to reach down and touch your toes without bending your knees? As I'v never been able to do that Sad.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 09:30:04 AM »

Tight hamstring or calves. Let us know what your on-line trainer is getting you to do. Remember nobody knows everything and anyone could be wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 09:33:16 AM »

Tight hamstring or calves. Let us know what your on-line trainer is getting you to do. Remember nobody knows everything and anyone could be wrong.

Haha nooo, I meant you lol after you said you'l be keeping an eye on me and all of the help Cheesy lol.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 10:01:54 AM »

I didn't know I've opened a new diary! Just kidding Cheesy

Good stuff happening there. May I add something to smiley's corrections?

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - (3x6-12 Increase sets to 5 and reps to 12 - 15)
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Triceps Dips - 3x6-12

I'd leave the sets for dumbbell flies (be them incline or flat) at 3 and add dips (preferably triceps dips) if you have a place to do them!

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
Bent Over Rows - 3x6-12
Upright-Rows - 3x6-12
DB Curls - 3x6-12   (Choose between Hammer curls or DB curls)
Twenty-Ones once in a blue moon to shock your biceps (maybe every 3rd or 4th week)

I would substitute T-bar rows with barbell rows (your warm-up) and db rows with upright-rows (use an EZ curl bar for a healthier wrist Wink). I wouldn't decrease the volume for back too much, because it's an even bigger muscle group than chest!

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Bicycles - 3 x 6-12

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15  Would leave sets like that, but decrease reps surely
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20    Would leave sets like that, but decrease reps surely

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12 (do them on your back day for more volume for back/biceps imo)
Side Raises - 3x6-12  (keep them)
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12 (if you get tired of them or notice a lack of rear delt development try reverse flies)


That's what I would do. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 10:24:36 AM »

I didn't know I've opened a new diary! Just kidding Cheesy

Good stuff happening there. May I add something to smiley's corrections?

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - (3x6-12 Increase sets to 5 and reps to 12 - 15)
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Triceps Dips - 3x6-12

I'd leave the sets for dumbbell flies (be them incline or flat) at 3 and add dips (preferably triceps dips) if you have a place to do them!

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
Bent Over Rows - 3x6-12
Upright-Rows - 3x6-12
DB Curls - 3x6-12   (Choose between Hammer curls or DB curls)
Twenty-Ones once in a blue moon to shock your biceps (maybe every 3rd or 4th week)

I would substitute T-bar rows with barbell rows (your warm-up) and db rows with upright-rows (use an EZ curl bar for a healthier wrist Wink). I wouldn't decrease the volume for back too much, because it's an even bigger muscle group than chest!

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Bicycles - 3 x 6-12

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15  Would leave sets like that, but decrease reps surely
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20    Would leave sets like that, but decrease reps surely

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12 (do them on your back day for more volume for back/biceps imo)
Side Raises - 3x6-12  (keep them)
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12 (if you get tired of them or notice a lack of rear delt development try reverse flies)


That's what I would do. Smiley

Sorry Danny I have to disagree  Sad

Tricep dips can cause shoulder problems.
Flies are most effective at high volume.
Upright rows to a great job at working your mid delt (lateral raises on the other hand are a isolation and sorry build mass slower) if you do them with a wide grip. Also he's doing quite a lot on back day so wouldn't it be best to keep them on shoulder day to spread the work out over the week?
T- bar rows are a really great back workout if your leaving deadlifts out.
Calfs respond best to high sets they don't get worked in compounds a much as arms which are about the same size and so need some additional reps which you need to make up with low reps and high sets.

However it wouldn’t be surprising that you might disagree with some of my views. Intelligent and sincere people can disagree. What I think is important is looking at things in different ways and then coming up with our own conclusions. Danny I hate to disagree with you with such minor points it's the kind of things you learn from experience and everyone is different I think he may have to try for himself.








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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2010, 11:47:23 AM »

I didn't know I've opened a new diary! Just kidding Cheesy

Good stuff happening there. May I add something to smiley's corrections?

Chest & Triceps
Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - (3x6-12 Increase sets to 5 and reps to 12 - 15)
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12
Triceps Dips - 3x6-12

I'd leave the sets for dumbbell flies (be them incline or flat) at 3 and add dips (preferably triceps dips) if you have a place to do them!

Back & Biceps
Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
Bent Over Rows - 3x6-12
Upright-Rows - 3x6-12
DB Curls - 3x6-12   (Choose between Hammer curls or DB curls)
Twenty-Ones once in a blue moon to shock your biceps (maybe every 3rd or 4th week)

I would substitute T-bar rows with barbell rows (your warm-up) and db rows with upright-rows (use an EZ curl bar for a healthier wrist Wink). I wouldn't decrease the volume for back too much, because it's an even bigger muscle group than chest!

Abs - Wednesday
Crunches - 3x6-12
Lying Leg Hip Raise 3x6-12
Bicycles - 3 x 6-12

Legs - Thursday
Squats (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Squats 3x6-10
Leg Extensions - 3x6-12
Unilateral Leg Curls - 3x6-12
Standing Calf Raises - 3x6-15  Would leave sets like that, but decrease reps surely
Seated Calf Raises - 3x6-20    Would leave sets like that, but decrease reps surely

Shoulders - Friday
Standing overhead press (warm-up) x2
Standing Barbell overhead press - 3x6-10
Upright Rows - 3x6-12 (do them on your back day for more volume for back/biceps imo)
Side Raises - 3x6-12  (keep them)
Rear Delt Rows - 3x6-12 (if you get tired of them or notice a lack of rear delt development try reverse flies)


That's what I would do. Smiley


Sorry Danny I have to disagree  Sad

Tricep dips can cause shoulder problems.
Flies are most effective at high volume.
Upright rows to a great job at working your mid delt (lateral raises on the other hand are a isolation and sorry build mass slower) if you do them with a wide grip. Also he's doing quite a lot on back day so wouldn't it be best to keep them on shoulder day to spread the work out over the week?
T-bar rows are a really great back workout if your leaving deadlifts out.
Calfs respond best to high sets they don't get worked in compounds a much as arms which are about the same size and so need some additional reps which you need to make up with low reps and high sets.

However it wouldn’t be surprising that you might disagree with some of my views. Intelligent and sincere people can disagree. What I think is important is looking at things in different ways and then coming up with our own conclusions. Danny I hate to disagree with you with such minor points it's the kind of things you learn from experience and everyone is different I think he may have to try for himself.



Don't be sorry. This is a healthy discussion going on! It would be a shame to let it die! Also I love discussing/talking with you so don't you dare to stop replying Wink

@Triceps Dips: I have never had shoulder problems with them. Chest dips are different though. I guess he'd have to try just like you said in that last part you talked about!

@Flies: I just felt that 5 sets of an isolation exercise feels kind of awkward. You might say that I treat flies like curls. They can be beneficial, but I don't see them as mandatory for chest growth. If 5 sets work for him then he should go for it anyways Smiley

@Upright-Rows: I know that they basically target 3 different muscles: Upper Back, Lateral Delts and Biceps. For more information look here (that's directed to Danny, I know that you know this site, smiley Tongue)

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/BBUprightRow.html

As I see it you can do upright-rows on a back or on a shoulder day. For me I realized that they work quite a lot of biceps and trapezius (middle/lower fibers). It might just be the way I'm doing them though.

Generally shoulder day might be better, but in this case I'm afraid that his back/bicep day doesn't have enough volume. He only works his back/bicep once per week. After your recommendations this back/bic day would look like this:

Barbell Rows (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Chin Ups - 3x6-10
T-bar Rows - 3x6-12
Hammer or DB Curls - 3x6-12

That's 3 working sets for bicep and a lousy 6 working sets for back (which isn't enough if you follow such a split routine like he does). Now that alone didn't got me thinking. What got me thinking was that he has a chest/triceps day (it's more of a chest day anyway) that goes like this

Bench Press (warm-up) - 2x6-15
Bench Press - 3x 6-10 -
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press - 3x6-12
Incline (alternate weekly -flat)  Dumbbell Fly - 5x12-15
Close-grip Bench Press - 3x6-12

CGBP works the chest too, but even without them he has 11 sets for chest, which is almost twice as much as he has for his back.
This is the main reason why I would treat the upright-row as a back exercise and just do an isolation exercise for lateral deltoids on friday (note that there is enough rest between back day and shoulder day).

@T-Bar rows: Yeah that's what I forgot. I'd integrate them into back day too as working sets or at least as warm-up sets Cheesy My bad!

@Calves: You're probably right. You're the one with the killer calves actually not me Tongue
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