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« Reply #810 on: April 28, 2010, 05:09:47 PM » |
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your flies are really impressive man, I doubt I can even one rep yours lol
i do them the hardest way i can; arms as straight as possible, and i pause at the 60 degree angle. if you go all the way to the top, when the dumbbells are perpendicular to your body and right infront of your face, your pecs are no longer engaged. by stopping at 60 degrees and going back down again, it's constant tension on the pecs. i can 7 rep 65-70s with proper form.  |
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« Reply #811 on: April 28, 2010, 05:54:24 PM » |
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i can 7 rep 65-70s with proper form. thats pretty much what i can press  so jealous. |
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« Reply #812 on: April 28, 2010, 06:23:11 PM » |
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i can 7 rep 65-70s with proper form. thats pretty much what i can press so jealous. hey relax, don't look up to me. look at Scooby. he's told me that he can do flyes with 105's (for 8 reps); now that's impressive! |
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« Reply #813 on: April 28, 2010, 06:34:18 PM » |
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i was looking through the internet and found this. Thought you might like it. Its Zyzz of Bodybuilding.com's Misc section. He used pHs and the video is slightly stretched. However, he doesn't look highly impressive for running 3 cycles.
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« Reply #814 on: April 28, 2010, 06:42:17 PM » |
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I did 5x5 floor flyes (Elbows straight and not touching the floor, every rep from dead-stop) with 75s yesterday and today my biceps tendon hurts (At the supraglenoid tubercle end, not elbow). I'm putting the blame on flyes for this and removing them from my routine  |
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« Reply #815 on: April 28, 2010, 06:44:08 PM » |
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I did 5x5 floor flyes (Elbows straight and not touching the floor, every rep from dead-stop) with 75s yesterday and today my biceps tendon hurts (At the supraglenoid tubercle end, not elbow). I'm putting the blame on flyes for this and removing them from my routine that's awesome, i'd probably only be able to do that with 65s, not 75s, maybe not even that. so how do you do them? you lift the dumbbells with arms straight, pause, and then begin the set? |
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« Reply #816 on: April 28, 2010, 06:56:18 PM » |
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I never liked dumbbell flyes, too much strain compared to the benefits, cable flyes are good for constant tension but I was still doing them to help increase my initial force by starting them dead stop, I'll now do presses from the rack each rep for that purpose instead.
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« Reply #817 on: April 28, 2010, 07:01:07 PM » |
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I never liked dumbbell flyes, too much strain compared to the benefits, cable flyes are good for constant tension but I was still doing them to help increase my initial force by starting them dead stop, I'll now do presses from the rack each rep for that purpose instead.
have you ever done them this way?
now i'm not saying that far behind the body, but you can see that he stops when his arm forms a 60 degree angle, rather than lifting until the dumbbells are straight above his face, since then, there's no more tension on the muscle. i do them this way, since by pausing at a 60 degree angle, then going back down, the pec is engaged throughout the set. this would be more beneficial than the traditional way of flyes, where you stop when the dumbbells are straight above your face when lying down, right? |
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« Reply #818 on: April 28, 2010, 07:18:51 PM » |
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I never liked dumbbell flyes, too much strain compared to the benefits, cable flyes are good for constant tension but I was still doing them to help increase my initial force by starting them dead stop, I'll now do presses from the rack each rep for that purpose instead.
have you ever done them this way? Arnold Schwarzenegger - Dumbell Flynow i'm not saying that far behind the body, but you can see that he stops when his arm forms a 60 degree angle, rather than lifting until the dumbbells are straight above his face, since then, there's no more tension on the muscle. i do them this way, since by pausing at a 60 degree angle, then going back down, the pec is engaged throughout the set. this would be more beneficial than the traditional way of flyes, where you stop when the dumbbells are straight above your face when lying down, right? Yeah I also do them that way and I was doing them to increase my initial strength so no reason to do the top portion anyway but I think cable flyes are better than dumbbells for size because even though you can cause constant tension with dumbbells, you still don't challenge your pecs through the entire range of motion. If there was tension at the top portion of the movement, then you'd feel different fibers coming into the action and everyone talks about "squeeze at the top", it is impossible without cables. |
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« Reply #819 on: April 28, 2010, 07:21:36 PM » |
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I never liked dumbbell flyes, too much strain compared to the benefits, cable flyes are good for constant tension but I was still doing them to help increase my initial force by starting them dead stop, I'll now do presses from the rack each rep for that purpose instead.
have you ever done them this way? Arnold Schwarzenegger - Dumbell Flynow i'm not saying that far behind the body, but you can see that he stops when his arm forms a 60 degree angle, rather than lifting until the dumbbells are straight above his face, since then, there's no more tension on the muscle. i do them this way, since by pausing at a 60 degree angle, then going back down, the pec is engaged throughout the set. this would be more beneficial than the traditional way of flyes, where you stop when the dumbbells are straight above your face when lying down, right? Yeah I also do them that way and I was doing them to increase my initial strength so no reason to do the top portion anyway but I think cable flyes are better than dumbbells for size because even though you can cause constant tension with dumbbells, you still don't challenge your pecs through the entire range of motion. If there was tension at the top portion of the movement, then you'd feel different fibers coming into the action and everyone talks about "squeeze at the top", it is impossible without cables. yeah i agree, cables do seem better; i do incline cable flyes. once you get past the bottom part in dumbbell flyes, it's easier. but with cables, you really have to squeeeeeze at the top; i love that feeling.  |
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« Reply #820 on: April 28, 2010, 07:25:30 PM » |
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oh yeah, i'm a huge fan of dips (favorite triceps exercise), and i saw in one of your posts that you are too. how much can you do dips with if you don't mind me asking?
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« Reply #821 on: April 28, 2010, 07:31:29 PM » |
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With 3 45s, I could add more and did that before but then it doesn't feel comfortable when I walk around with them between sets (I use dip belt), so I removed that exercise from my low rep training at the moment. I also like alternating exercises instead of doing straight sets but it takes too much to add and remove the weight for dips everytime. I love them, but at the moment I just do them at the end of my workout.
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« Reply #822 on: April 28, 2010, 07:33:26 PM » |
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With 3 45s, I could add more and did that before but then it doesn't feel comfortable when I walk around with them between sets (I use dip belt), so I removed that exercise from my low rep training at the moment. I also like alternating exercises instead of doing straight sets but it takes too much to add and remove the weight for dips everytime. I love them, but at the moment I just do them at the end of my workout.
damn nice! i'd like to do 3-5 reps with 3 45s strapped on within 2 months, and that's fresh before doing any other exercises, and definitely not train. you rep train with that weight? damn! |
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« Reply #823 on: April 28, 2010, 07:43:02 PM » |
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I would use 3 45s for my chinups at the end of 2009 so it doesn't feel much. But I am heavier now, I weigh 200 so at the moment I am not expecting to be that good at exercises I have to move my body in |
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« Reply #824 on: April 28, 2010, 07:48:10 PM » |
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I would use 3 45s for my chinups at the end of 2009 so it doesn't feel much. But I am heavier now, I weigh 200 so at the moment I am not expecting to be that good at exercises I have to move my body in haha wow we share similar goals. that's what i wanna do by the end of 2010; 3-5 pullups with 3 plates, for july 2010, same reps but 2 plates. |
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