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Gooner69
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« on: January 31, 2012, 01:33:40 PM » |
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Hi, I'm going to start taking creatine, 10g a day, 5g in the morning 5g before bed. Do I have to take this strictly every day without fail? Or is it just training days or what?
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Azyth
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 03:48:42 PM » |
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Read the instructions on the box. You need to load up first, then maintain. Either way, yes you need to take it every day.
Don't forget to cycle it! 3 months on 2-3 weeks off.
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Keep it simple
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 03:53:09 PM » |
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dont load dont cycle and just take 5 grams a day. Finished.
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Fireball
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 11:39:25 PM » |
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I give you simple answer for this:
Studies conducted in 1999 shown that:
Loading 10-20g a day for 6 days, then taking 2-5g maintenance dozage for 30 days. But does upset stomach quite a bit.
Taking 5g a day for 30 days without loading perioid. Has shown in studies to be equally efficient as loading & maintaining, with smaller stomach upseting side-effects.
Taking 3-5g a day taken with pre-workout drink, for extended perioid of time (60-90 days.) Has shown to cause least negative side effects and it has been equally efficient with the two possible schemes.
I personally prefer 4g a day for 60-90 days in row, then I take 4 week pause and start again. I find my power level to remain steady and don't have at all an upset stomach.
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Pwnage123
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 02:55:53 AM » |
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5g per day.
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Gooner69
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 08:06:21 AM » |
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Right so most people said 5g a day, that's in one go right? And morning/evening or whenever? Does it matter when I take it? Eg. today afternoon so I have to take it every afternoon? How long does it the effect take to take place? Like how long before my workout should I take it?
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Janis45
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 08:23:29 AM » |
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It doesnt matter when you take it, because creatine doesnt have a boost visible in a short period of time, like 1 day so it doesnt matter when you take it, Just take 5grams a day, don't load, cycle if you want but its not necessary.
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King Neptune
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 08:31:08 AM » |
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"Recent research has shown that creatine increases dihydrotestosterone (DHT) levels and increases the DHT : Testosterone ratio. I’m not sure as to the exact mechanism regarding why this is occurs. Since testosterone levels didn’t diminish, it doesn’t appear that more testosterone is being converted to DHT via increased 5-alpha reductase enzyme activity (check out this cool chart on steroidogenesis if that makes no sense to you), yet that is the mechanism that the researchers proposed. And it wasn’t just an insignificant amount, after 7 days of creatine loading DHT increased by 56% and the DHT : T ration increased by 36%!
As shown in this recent review article, androgens are critical for penile health. However, I don’t believe that the effects of creatine and/or associated chronically elevated DHT levels have been researched in the literature. I was able to find several forum threads such as this one where individuals claimed that creatine wrecked their ability to achieve erections. I believe that this is the culprit, as the endocrine system is very sensitive and any imbalances can throw things out of whack."
"DHT is the primary contributing factor in male pattern baldness. Women with increased levels of DHT may develop certain androgynous male secondary sex characteristics, including a deepened voice and facial hair. DHT plays a role in the development and exacerbation of benign prostatic hyperplasia, as well as prostate cancer, by enlarging the prostate gland. Prostate growth and differentiation are highly dependent on sex steroid hormones, particularly DHT."
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Gooner69
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 08:35:35 AM » |
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Could I have a link to that article please?
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Gooner69
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 09:53:19 AM » |
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Thanks. That guy's been taking it for 18 years, that's a long time. I was more concerned with the part about 'adolescent growth' I failed to properly understand, does creatine encourage growth or prevent it?
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King Neptune
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 09:58:05 AM » |
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Thanks. That guy's been taking it for 18 years, that's a long time. I was more concerned with the part about 'adolescent growth' I failed to properly understand, does creatine encourage growth or prevent it?
Never mind "that guy". The point is it throws DHT / testosterone ratio out of whack, and that's bad news, for everybody. |
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Uglok
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 10:07:05 AM » |
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Thanks. That guy's been taking it for 18 years, that's a long time. I was more concerned with the part about 'adolescent growth' I failed to properly understand, does creatine encourage growth or prevent it?
No, it does neither. Take a look at: http://www.askscooby.com/supplements/creatine-faq/(although I shall update this at some point in the coming week) |
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Gooner69
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 10:08:34 AM » |
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Right, I get that it's bad, buy why? Could you put it into the most simple terms possible please?  @Uglok, I'll have a look at that right away cheers |
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 10:47:39 AM » |
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@ Uglok
I have read through your FAQ many times in attempts to absorb it all, but I have also been watching some other videos and reading some other studies on it and had a question for you -
Have you seen Will Brink's video on whether or not you need to cycle creatine? He said that studies show no need for it (which I read, though my science jargon isn't super fluent), and you can take 4-5g per day for however long you want to with no negative side effects, which is very intriguing.
I know the potential reason to cycle it, when it comes to natural creatine synthesis, but if this isn't actually an issue then I'd be interested to see how many people are just constantly on a regular dosage.
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