Dquin
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« on: September 01, 2010, 01:56:04 AM » |
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iv heard glutamine is better than creatine please any info and opinions will be appreciated  |
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Adam512
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 05:22:47 AM » |
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Hi!
Glutamine is a amino acid, which is a part of a protein. Creatine and Glutamine does not have the same purpose. Creatine increases performance, and might have a positive effect on recovery after a workout, and also it might stimulate the proteinsynthesis in a good way.
Glutamine is always sold as "the amino acid the body uses most" and so on. Though there is no research I am aware of that really shows glutamine have a positive effect. I tried it out once, about 5-10g before and after my workouts, and I did not see any difference, but I only used it for 1-2 months.
Also, Creatine is naturally found in meat for example, and I think there is about 5g in every 1kg of meat, which is a very small amount, and glutamine is as I said, a aminoacid which is found in most proteins. That means, if you eat good enough your will get plenty of glutamine. A standard dose of creatine is 5grams/day, which you can get from about 1kg meat, which is harder to achieve. And also there is periodization techniques where you eat 15-25 grams of creatine/day, which is next to impossible to achieve withing the "normal" range of eating.
My opinion is: Creatine is worth using, but be very very careful when you choose brand.
Glutamine, might be worth trying, but I would say no.
Good luck
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ilikethatyoulikeme
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 05:58:12 AM » |
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As person above said, do A LOT of research on creatine, be very careful when choosing brand. For example I myself tried creatine once, I don't know if it was because of the brand, or if I'm one of the 5% something that it has no effect on. I did everything correctly, I was eating well, stayed hydrated at all times. But It never worked for me. But I think it's worth trying, but it costs money  |
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kalisti
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 09:04:26 AM » |
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at the risk of being rude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine#Functions at the bottom of the section "reducing healing time" that why i use it. always best to read about it then ask about it imo. if its a choice between one or the other, creatine has my vote 100%. glutamine is in many foods too so you'll probably get enough in "beef, chicken, fish, eggs, milk, dairy products, wheat, cabbage, beets, beans, spinach, and parsley" as listed on wiki. as already stated the effects are not similar to each other, so comparing them is unfair i think, but if i had to say which is better creatine will help you get further faster in bodybuilding, glutamine is more like an insurance policy backing things up, i take both which i think is the ideal. |
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ilikethatyoulikeme
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 09:14:19 AM » |
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Creatine sure is helpful but remember to read about it, creatine is rough on the kidneys.
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goldeneye901
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 09:44:11 AM » |
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is vitaminshoppe creatine ok?
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marinovb
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 09:48:07 AM » |
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creatine helps you build muscle(anabolize)
glutamine helps you not to catabolize(loose muscle)
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Truth
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 10:22:51 AM » |
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Creatine sure is helpful but remember to read about it, creatine is rough on the kidneys.
Please, PLEASE stop spreading this nonsense. Maybe YOU should go read about it. On Topic: Glutamine is worthless, particularly so if you consume protein shakes. |
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ilikethatyoulikeme
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 10:37:36 AM » |
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Creatine sure is helpful but remember to read about it, creatine is rough on the kidneys.
Please, PLEASE stop spreading this nonsense. Maybe YOU should go read about it. On Topic: Glutamine is worthless, particularly so if you consume protein shakes. Sorry, I should think before I write. What I wanted to say is that Creatine can be rough on your kidneys IF YOU have diabetes for example. If you're a healthy person it's perfectly okay. |
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kalisti
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 10:43:24 AM » |
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"Glutamine is worthless"
you want to back that up with anything? other that coz i say so.
i'd understand if the whey you use has an awesome amino profile, but having too much im pretty sure cant hurt, with the benefits it brings im happy with it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 11:34:57 AM » |
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"Glutamine is worthless"
you want to back that up with anything? other that coz i say so.
i'd understand if the whey you use has an awesome amino profile, but having too much im pretty sure cant hurt, with the benefits it brings im happy with it.
For the purposes glutamine is sold e.g., better recovery etc. it is worthless. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11822473http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10410846 |
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kalisti
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 11:59:04 AM » |
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"with no significant difference" you expected more? http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm 3rd paragraph "Certain medical conditions, including injuries, surgery, infections, and prolonged stress, can lower glutamine levels, however. In these cases, taking a glutamine supplement may be helpful." the people in the 1st study you link are not labeled as bodybuilders, so i'd imagine there glutamine levels would be fine to start with anyway, whereas i and many others are constantly damaging and repairing all year long 5-7 day a week, so i think its a little different. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 01:41:46 PM » |
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"with no significant difference" you expected more? If there was no significant difference, then why the hell would you waste your money on it? Where's the logic in that!?http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm 3rd paragraph "Certain medical conditions, including injuries, surgery, infections, and prolonged stress, can lower glutamine levels, however. In these cases, taking a glutamine supplement may be helpful." So? Glutamine isn't the most abundant amino acid without a reason; it's rapidly resynthesized. People that consume proein shakes have even less of a reason to use it.the people in the 1st study you link are not labeled as bodybuilders, so i'd imagine there glutamine levels would be fine to start with anyway, whereas i and many others are constantly damaging and repairing all year long 5-7 day a week, so i think its a little different. They're resistance trained athletes. They don't have to be bodybuilders. The bodybuilders you reference are usually aided by prolonged use of AAS. |
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kalisti
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 03:14:42 AM » |
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mkay, for me in bodybuilding every little advantage helps, and in bodybuilding an extra one rep is of some significance.
"If there was no significant difference, then why the hell would you waste your money on it?"
creatine and whey also both give small gains(granted you may not use either), creatines only gonna get you an extra rep or so and whey is only gonna make you put on slightly more muscle mass, but its all these factors (slight differences) put together and you find your workouts are longer and harder you move up weights quicker etc, but please tell me what then would make it worth it, would it need to let you lift an extra 700kg for and extra 90 reps to be worth it? popeye used spinach for that and greg valentino used...
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