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« on: December 31, 2011, 08:44:44 PM »

this supplement is crazy---> http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/Optimum/Serious_Mass it has 1250 cal per serve, why would anyone want to take this, I know I dont eat enough but taking this as a supplement seems unreal
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2011, 09:35:51 PM »

Holy hell no!!!
What a big waste of money!!! I feel sorry for anyone falling for this crap..

1,250 calories of crap..with a cheap whey concentrate to boot! ..mm synthetic vitamins...WOOT
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2011, 09:42:33 PM »

its listed in top 50 2011 supps, i dont think its a waiste of money but I wouldnt wanna gain fat and not muscle from it
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2011, 09:50:39 PM »

Carbohydrate    253g    ?

Not something that I could ever take (at least without sending my blood sugars soaring).
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2011, 11:56:12 PM »

I wouldn't take it. not because "bulking only makes you gain fat"(something I disagree with very very much), but because eating trash is so much more enjoyable than drinking something that potentially tastes like who knows what.

Pizza hut > icky shake.
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    « Reply #5 on: January 01, 2012, 01:03:39 AM »

    I wouldn't take it. not because "bulking only makes you gain fat"(something I disagree with very very much), but because eating trash is so much more enjoyable than drinking something that potentially tastes like who knows what.

    Pizza hut > icky shake.

    If I wasn't diabetic I'd be hyuuuuuge. 
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    « Reply #6 on: January 01, 2012, 08:52:54 AM »

    It is for very lean ectomorphs who has hard time gaining weight as their metabolic is fast

    One of ma friend is very lean ectomorphic he buys BSN true mass , sometimes serious mass twice a month as whey will not work for him

    If you are mesomorph or endomorph weight gainers will make you fat , one negative is weight gainers are more expensive than protein powders
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    « Reply #7 on: January 01, 2012, 02:07:11 PM »

    It is for very lean ectomorphs who has hard time gaining weight as their metabolic is fast

    One of ma friend is very lean ectomorphic he buys BSN true mass , sometimes serious mass twice a month as whey will not work for him

    If you are mesomorph or endomorph weight gainers will make you fat , one negative is weight gainers are more expensive than protein powders

    good point, this was also listed weight gainer of the year for 2011, heres the link http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/supplement-awards-winners.html i still cant beleive it has 1250 calories though, they should send it to countries like africa where they need it instead of bodybuilding
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    « Reply #8 on: January 01, 2012, 02:25:35 PM »

    its more meant for people that are big enough to be eating around 8000 calories or more a day. pointless if you are only eating in the 3000 calorie range. But still pointless in my opinion because the cost would be better spent on real food.
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    « Reply #9 on: January 01, 2012, 02:29:25 PM »

    fuck that, this is for roided out of there minds kind of people, for a normal guy better off eating a steak then having a pint of ice cream
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    « Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 03:24:37 PM »

    yeah id rather eat a peace of steak then take that, might be good for skinny people looking to bulk up
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    « Reply #11 on: January 02, 2012, 04:21:01 AM »

    this supplement is good for people who are lazy to cook more food

    ectomorphs they need to eat a lot but clean , serious mass has too many calories but they are not simple carbs which is good

    a person with busy lifestyle it is not possible to eat lot of food very often, this supplement may help such people
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    « Reply #12 on: January 02, 2012, 05:00:45 AM »

    serious mass has too many calories but they are not simple carbs which is good

    Simple carbs are used during carb loads. They make you appear fuller and bloatier because of the increase glycogen storage. Serious mass is often taken post workout so simple carbs/sugars in this case would make sense because they are needed for a insulin spike primarily for anabolic results and secondly to suppress cortisol levels. Ectomorphs need the bigger look, not the carb depleted look. In terms of calories, ectomorphs definitely need more than enough calories. I myself have eaten 6000kcal everyday ages ago without leaving the single digit body fat zone. Get your facts straight before posting stp.
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    « Reply #13 on: January 02, 2012, 05:21:19 AM »

    serious mass has too many calories but they are not simple carbs which is good

    Simple carbs are used during carb loads. They make you appear fuller and bloatier because of the increase glycogen storage. Serious mass is often taken post workout so simple carbs/sugars in this case would make sense because they are needed for a insulin spike primarily for anabolic results and secondly to suppress cortisol levels. Ectomorphs need the bigger look, not the carb depleted look. In terms of calories, ectomorphs definitely need more than enough calories. I myself have eaten 6000kcal everyday ages ago without leaving the single digit body fat zone. Get your facts straight before posting stp.

    ON says it is 250 g of carbs with no added sugar , that means no simple carbs right ?
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    « Reply #14 on: January 02, 2012, 05:28:23 AM »

    My bad mistaken serious mass as ON's 2:1:1 recovery, they are both colored green! Serious mass does not have fast acting carbs (sugar). My statement still stands though. Simple carbs (sugars) are needed for post workout. One wishing to gain weight would be better off with 2:1:1 recovery.
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