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« on: January 11, 2012, 09:31:39 PM »

Hey all, I have another question about kickboxing. I've been doing a lot of research on the internet lately for kickboxing workouts, and all the time I get that apparently powerlifting is bad for your performance. I still want to be strong though, so what should I do?

1. How would a strength routine do with push-presses and power cleans in them? It would build both strength and explosive power.
2. And for the endurance part, doesn't that just come from enough sparring and bag conditioning training?
3. Would sparring be a good idea when you know the basics? About the right technique for every strike and kick, there's a sparring class for beginners at my gym that lasts for one hour.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 10:05:21 AM »

I think strength training(especially with explosive exercises) is best for martial arts, a lot better than hypetrophy training or anything. It does actually help a lot if your technique is fine. And the endurance sure comes from sparring etc. Sparring should be fine, but where did you learn these basics? You should get someone to teach you, because you have to do it eventually anyway.
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    « Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 10:10:22 AM »

    If you have an interest in powerlifting in conjunction with a speed-based sport like kick-boxing, I recommend using submaximal loads.  The reason most athletes stay away from powerlifting and gravitate towards Olympic lifts is that pushing or pulling the heaviest weight you can is invariably going to end up as a slow movement.

    Performing each of the lifts with ~75-85% of your max (or less, if you feel like it) will allow you to retain your speed and explosiveness.  Only move the weight up when you can comfortably move the bar as quickly as possible.

    Bag conditioning is great, but another tool to increase your endurance would be barbell complexes.  These will leave your cardiovascular system SCREAMING, and your muscles burning nicely.  There is a good article on them already in Excellent Postings; just search "Barbell Complexes" and it will be near the top.
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    « Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 10:14:37 AM »

    Hey all, I have another question about kickboxing. I've been doing a lot of research on the internet lately for kickboxing workouts, and all the time I get that apparently powerlifting is bad for your performance. I still want to be strong though, so what should I do?

    1. How would a strength routine do with push-presses and power cleans in them? It would build both strength and explosive power.
    2. And for the endurance part, doesn't that just come from enough sparring and bag conditioning training?
    3. Would sparring be a good idea when you know the basics? About the right technique for every strike and kick, there's a sparring class for beginners at my gym that lasts for one hour.


    1. Do an abbreviated training consisting of Push Press and Power cleans (just these two as your core lifts, while you may add others for variety).

    2. Jogging, running, heavy bag work, jump rope, and sparring will condition you like a king.

    3. Yes, it's necessary because kickboxing is a ring sport, hence you do lots of sparrings inside the ring.

    Learn the basics because it's probably the only thing you'll use when you fight. :3

    But if you're learning kickboxing for cardio, be sure to master the heavy bag, because when you've learned it, you may want to have your own heavy bag at home, with the picture of your boss, and beat the .... out of it. :3
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    « Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 11:52:58 AM »

    Thanks Polished! But progressing from submaximal loads on fast is kinda hard, isn't it? Maybe I should try to get the most out of powerlifting first and then do that, sounds good to me. And I'll take a look at those barbell complexes. Smiley

    And Kuggoz, I learned the basics from kickboxing lessons, haha. Technique and bag training.

    And MercNil, lmao... I'd put a picture on it and beat it with bare hands! Not that I have a boss right now, I'm in the last year of high school, thinking of doing physiotherapy after this. Wink I think I'll jog a bit whenever I have time, thanks!

    And again, thank you all guys. Smiley
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