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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2011, 04:09:55 PM »

the most important thing of training any martial art is for me trying to "stay invisible" for any potential agressor. No one should look like: "Hi, let's test you if I can kick your a$$". There is a saying: Good fighter will make every fight, but perfect fighter will avoid it. It's the heart of IKM.
I aggree, but have to say I also slightly disaggree. A punk will look for someone weak and invisible that they can fight, the clue is to get to the level where you ahve enough confidence to it to show. You dont seem like easy prey for a wannabe, but if you take it to far, aka what you called
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"Hi, let's test you if I can kick your a$$"
, you might be unlucky and meet one of the few real "tough guys" who wants to fight other tough guys. So, its all about middle ground.

I was one of those guys, wich eventually got me in trouble with the cops. When a guy hyped on himself meets another like that, violence will take place. A true martial artist will back down from that unless given no other choice.

A grandmaster I met once said about fighting:
Speak softly, walk softer. If your road is blocked and you cant walk around, hit hard and deceisively, then walk softly around the fallen obsticle.
Meaning, dont act tough. be calm unless you have no other option, then you strike hard, finish it fast. Then just walk away, none of that "I am a badass" bs, just pretend it didnt happen.
Its a fact of life that the more you fight, the more you have to fight.


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    « Reply #31 on: November 13, 2011, 04:24:12 PM »

    Funny you should mention this. The instructor told us if he hears we were in a fight, we're instantly out of the club.

    So not only are we motivated to avoid fights to not get hurt (or hurt anyone), but we also have a responsibility to our KM center. Smiley
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    « Reply #32 on: November 13, 2011, 04:33:20 PM »

    Funny you should mention this. The instructor told us if he hears we were in a fight, we're instantly out of the club.

    So not only are we motivated to avoid fights to not get hurt (or hurt anyone), but we also have a responsibility to our KM center. Smiley
    Exactly! Fighting i one thing, defending yourself (or someone) is completely different, its about choice. Fighting is a choice, self defense is when you no longer have one.
    Sounds like you have a good trainer with the right attitude towards what its all about.
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    « Reply #33 on: February 15, 2012, 02:45:11 PM »

    A journalist camera crew crashed one of our training sessions a few weeks back. I remembered someone asked for pics/vids of us practicing.

    Unfortunately, I was sick with pneumonia that day, so I'm not in the video.

    But, just so you guys get an idea.

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    « Reply #34 on: February 16, 2012, 06:27:48 AM »

    A journalist camera crew crashed one of our training sessions a few weeks back. I remembered someone asked for pics/vids of us practicing.

    Unfortunately, I was sick with pneumonia that day, so I'm not in the video.

    But, just so you guys get an idea.

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    Damn man, your warm-up looks hardcore. I started Krav Maga in October but we don't really do a full exhausting warmup, just very easy stuff. The most exhausted I've been is while doing pads, but that's all. We mostly focus on techniques.

    In boxing however (haven't been in a while now), I felt like throwing up every time. Both the warm-up and cool-down were fucked up.
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    « Reply #35 on: February 16, 2012, 03:08:39 PM »

    Very nice vid House, seems like your warm up is the perfect mix between getting tired, but still not so tired you cant focus on the learning progress. Never realized how much in krav maga is similar to aikido with the deflections and counters, done all those with my training. Not so strange perhaps as there is some jujutsu in krav maga.

    Enjoy the amount of palm strikes, seen so many krav maga clubs use knuckle strikes(palm=save your knuckles from damage). I like the look of your club Smiley
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    « Reply #36 on: February 16, 2012, 04:07:59 PM »

    Funny you should mention that about warm up - because today we had an atypical warm up so tough we were all a bit hazed while learning techniques later. I returned home with an ache in my back because I couldn't stand straight for the later half of the entire training.

    Krav Maga is similar to Aikido because it took almost half of it's techniques from it (and modified them for real life situations). It's incredible when you see how much influence Aikido had - but it does make sense.

    As for palm strikes - we don't use them exclusively. Actually, we only use them when doing techniques that require us to remove our gloves (grapplings, chokes, etc.) to minimize the damage to our sparring partner.

    As for the club - it's actually a small exercise area in our town gym. Way to small for our needs - especially when all members come at the same day. It's comfortable when there are 20-25 of us, but when there are 37, it's a completely different story. It does, however, contribute to our situational awareness skills.


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    Cool. That means you've been training about as long as I have. How's it going so far?
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    « Reply #37 on: February 16, 2012, 04:35:21 PM »

    @minimalist:
    Cool. That means you've been training about as long as I have. How's it going so far?

    It's great and I'm enjoying it, I think I'm developing a few useful automatic responses to standard attacks.

    I haven't put it into practice in real life (thankfully), but was very close in doing so once. Turns out the other guy was just being a chickenshit so violence was avoided.

    It definitely gives you some extra confidence, but it's always good to bear in mind that you might be dealing with a psycho that could stab the fuck out of you before you've even had time to think.
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    « Reply #38 on: February 16, 2012, 04:48:21 PM »

    Personally, since I began training, I became more confident and less scared of unarmed attacks, blunt weapons and guns.

    But knives have started to scare the living shit out of me. I realized how hard it is to survive those attacks even when you see them coming. Let alone when they're unexpected, and let alone leaving unharmed.

    Yesterday, when I was chopping onions, the knife slipped out of my hand and fell on the ground. I backed off as if a I dropped a bomb.

    Weird.
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    « Reply #39 on: February 16, 2012, 05:01:25 PM »

    Yeah, I dont like warm ups that go to far, students wont learn if they are to tired to think. That again means they will get less out of the training. Exhausting before sparring is great, but not before trying to learn something new.

    Alot from aikido is well suited for real life scenarios(I know, I use it often in my job), but like any other art its about finding what works best. That krav maga took so much from aikido is great in my book, just show the battlefield past of it still works in these days Smiley For one we have the mass training(3-5 opponents),wich I love, where we have to foucs on several opponents at once. And many krav maga schools do the same.

    Most people seem to think the flips we do are how the move is supposed to look, but we do those flips as the locks themselves are designed to break limbs. so the flips are for selfpreservation purposes(and they look AWESOME in demos ofc)

    Actually, there are schools that have gone back to those roots(from peaceful to warrior attitude)and you would be surpised how much similar to krav maga it actually is. We do have strikes, but how they are used is different from school to school(peaceful/warrior).
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    Personally, since I began training, I became more confident and less scared of unarmed attacks, blunt weapons and guns.

    But knives have started to scare the living shit out of me. I realized how hard it is to survive those attacks even when you see them coming. Let alone when they're unexpected, and let alone leaving unharmed.

    Yesterday, when I was chopping onions, the knife slipped out of my hand and fell on the ground. I backed off as if a I dropped a bomb.

    Weird.

    I have been attacked with knives(twice), and I have scars and a thumb with no sensation, and I have had a gun to my head. Knife was one thing, but few things are as terrifying as having a barrel pointed at your skull point blank. It was a .22 ruger, nontheless it would be more then enough to kill me. It takes a special personality to try to outrun a bullet without thinking. I froze completely, and chances are most will unless conditioned to act on it.

    Thing about knives, you have to accept you wont get away unharmed. Might sound pessimistic, but its the truth. Have you tried training with markers? We did that, and 90% of the time, you will get a mark somewhere,meaning you got cut.
    If you get away unharmed that awesome, just accept that when someone swings a blade,chances are you will get cut. Point is to get away alive.

    Didnt do aikido back then btw.
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    « Reply #40 on: February 16, 2012, 05:15:59 PM »

    A few years ago (before I had absolutely any combat training) I got attacked with a knife twice in one day (by the same guy).

    First time I almost got slaughtered - but it was winter and the ground was slippery, so the guy, after making a sudden move towards me, slipped and fell on his head. Luckily for me I got away before his buddies got me (they chased me).

    Few hours later, I was hiding with my friends, too scared to go home because the incident happened on my street, and stumbled into them again - because, ironically enough, they were also hiding, but from cops. Then the guy tried to attack me again, but they were all drunk as hell, so we all managed to escape.

    It all scared the living crap out of me - but it wasn't after I began training Krav Maga that I realized in how dangerous of a situation I really was. I still get shivers down my spine every time I remember it.
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