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« on: December 29, 2011, 06:31:33 PM »

Ive been practicing karate for 7 years and 6 months ago i started lifting weights, grip is really important in most(if not all) martial arts
Is there any excercise that you guys know of that improves your GRIP.

 I mean excercises that gives you iron fingers, crushing an apple with one hand  hehehe Grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 06:44:05 PM »

Well, when you lift weights, do pullups etc, it will all improve your hand strength Smiley Good to see even more martial artists here, welcome to the club Wink

Alot of things you can do, hold dumbells(alternatively go lighter,open grip and let them "roll out" to last joint on your fingers, then close again). When you do pullups etc, use a thick a bar(or make it thicker) as possible. Throw a towel(wet makes it easier to grip to begin with)around a bar, grip it and do pullups...Farmers walk etc etc..Alot of options.

Ofc you have handgrippers as an option, a couple of people here that use captains of crunch to build strength aswell!
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    « Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 03:30:32 AM »

    If you check out the Excellent Postings section, Under the "Advanced" section, you should be able to find both of my grip strength guides which will give you some ideas.

    The finger curls are a good exercise, and build up open hand crushing grip as well as the extensor muscles. You just need to be careful that the weight does not roll out of your hands. I usually do them with 100kg on a barbell for a few reps (Strength, not mass) and they really challenge your finger strength greatly.

    Thick bar pullups/deadlifts/rows are another great exercise for overall hand strength. As they train Open hand crushing grip and the forearm extensors at the same time. Many people when doing hand training focus on just the flexors and end up with painful hands due to muscle imbalances (It happened to me when I used grippers too much), as no exercises that bodybuilders regularly do train them, and 1 inch bars mean you have to do very specialist exercises that people either havent heard of or dont do. Thick bars are better because they make all exercises train them.

    Open Hand Crushing grip is where your thumb and fingers barely meet or dont meet at all when gripping something. Much like someones forearm, shoulder, leg, body etc etc. So developing masses of power in this type of grip is a massive benefit to any grappler, as they will be able to transfer their body power much better to the opponent. If you find your hands coming off your opponent during throws when you are gripping them, it's because your hands cannot support the power your body is putting in, so you cant transfer it all. If your hands are attached like superglue through your own hand strength throughout the whole movement, all your force is going into your opponent, which means you can either land a devastatingly powerful throw, or you can use less energy to do the same throw, because it is now moving more efficiently.

    I use captains of crush grippers and they are fine, but they are not the best overall training tool. Thick bars are, but I would suggest getting fat gripz if you are interested in thick bars, as not only are they cheaper than buying a thick bar, they can also be used on cables, dumbells, barbells, kettlebells, pullup bars, wrist rollers etc.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 07:15:03 AM »

    Thank you guys for the awesome information!!!! One of my 2012 goals is tear in half a phone book. I can do it with a book half as thick.

    Ive read the post about grip strenght and im going to start the grip trainig Grin

    How should i include it in my workout routine? I do a 3DAW split just like scooby's advace-intermediate
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    « Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 08:04:33 AM »

    Phone book tearing, nail bending etc have a lot to do with wrist strength, not just grip strength.

    I have bent a couple of cold rolled 6 inch nails with my hands, and they test your wrist strength much more, although it depends on which grip you use to bend the nail.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 10:50:51 AM »

    I also suggest to work with thick bars. I underestimated them before and didn't really mind them much but after I really started to train with thick bars, my grip strength has improved a lot more than it ever did with grippers or anything else.
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    « Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 11:23:53 AM »

    do pullups with your gi, rope climbs, maybe consider purchasing fat grips, thats pretty much it.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 02:52:00 PM »

    Phone book tearing, nail bending etc have a lot to do with wrist strength, not just grip strength.

    I have bent a couple of cold rolled 6 inch nails with my hands, and they test your wrist strength much more, although it depends on which grip you use to bend the nail.

    Normaly my fingers give up before my wrist does. How can a include grip and wrist training into my workout?

    Should i have a separate day for wrist and grip?
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    « Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 03:37:17 PM »

    I usually do it on my back day, although I do it whenever I feel like it to be honest. However no matter how much grip work I do it wont affect any of my lifts, because my hands are that much stronger than my body... So I would suggest for you to either do them on your back day after the workout, or if you are too tired, do them on a rest day after the back day.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 03:46:34 PM »

    Allright thanks men!! This is by far the best fitness forum ever!!
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    « Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 03:16:54 AM »

    Hmm well i just switched from pullups to towel pullups and i just add weight like you would normally to normal weighted pullups execpt mine are towel grip Smiley

    so yeah. And as the weight increases the grip strength increases. I try to make my towel dry so its harder to grip. Hopefully this grip strength will help when i join judo in like half a month!
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    « Reply #11 on: January 02, 2012, 09:02:53 PM »

    Rock climbing, I do indoor, gives you massive strength in your forearms and fingers. If you want to test it go to a climbing gym and try it I can guarantee your arms and fingers will be on fire after a few climbs. I do 1-2 hour session of climbing a week to supplement my martial arts and it works wonders I have never found anything else that comes close to improving strength in that part of my body as well as climbing does. Plus its great fun and good to do with a friend.
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