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« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2011, 10:54:47 AM » |
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The reasons why no one should underestimate punches are they are far more precise and faster from any range than kicks. And way more usable in close combat than kicks. But no one should underestimate kicks either  I also really dig proboxers. In amateur boxing it is all about hitting the target, not how hard. That's why when you look at amateur boxing, they use lots of different punches which are absolutely useless in proboxing.
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« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2011, 12:52:49 PM » |
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agreed agreed, thats why i think an art should focus on each one equally. Neither should be in lack of. Thats why arts such as Kickboxing, or Muay thai interest me as they have a good balance of both. Tangsoodo isnt bad though, i really like kicks which is why i like tangsoodo, but im also starting to like punches more. I appreciate them more. Before i was being narrow minded and though punches pfft, kicks hell yeah! One of the reasons why im looking for a kickboxing club that i can afford. but for now i really like my tangsoodo place, even if it doesnt have everything it has given me so much, i shouldnt discredit it
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« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2012, 01:56:28 AM » |
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Just found and watched this documentary with Mark Dacascos(If you dont recognize the name, he is a actor and a legitimate martial artist), and its well worth a watch. Going to go as far as say every martial artist should see it. Miyamoto Musashi has always been one of my idols, and what he achieved on his own is astonishing. One man changed a entire society by going his own way(that, and he was a badass  )
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« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2012, 02:25:53 AM » |
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Just found and watched this documentary with Mark Dacascos(If you dont recognize the name, he is a actor and a legitimate martial artist), and its well worth a watch. Going to go as far as say every martial artist should see it. Miyamoto Musashi has always been one of my idols, and what he achieved on his own is astonishing. One man changed a entire society by going his own way(that, and he was a badass  ) Samurai - Miyamoto Musashi Documentary (Mark Dacascos)
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« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2012, 02:41:54 AM » |
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Huh? 
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« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2012, 02:44:09 AM » |
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Huh?  An I like meme. Hehe.
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« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2012, 09:47:24 AM » |
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Watched the Musashi documentary. Nice stuff. I read the Gorin No Sho when I was in senior highschool and don't remember that much about it anymore. Maybe I should read it again  Also, check this out:
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« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2012, 03:34:28 PM » |
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I have read gorin no sho aswell as tsun tzu´s art of war several times, very good books, not just for martial artists but for life in general. Have seen that docu, as it was a related video on the musashi vid..I felt like a wimp afterwards lol 
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« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2012, 04:31:05 PM » |
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A small martial art temple in my country (Vietnam). I've been there 2 times (a few month each) and the training was hellish. Most students start training with 1h45' 3 days a week. 3years+ students train 6 days a week. The trainers usually train 2 times a day, 6 days a week. There's no real sparing or competition - it's only dedicated to master the mind and body. All the tricks like front flip, back flip... are practiced without the luxury of cushion. Rainy days are considered mandatory. In my personal experience, if someone (<1 year) can still keep good forms and trains seriously without holding back after 45mins into the training he is one hell of a beast.
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« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2012, 09:44:12 AM » |
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looks damned awesome concuncon!!! i like it!
this is a really nice video, haha! Sends chills through my spine! I really cant believe i thought judo was rubbish! Wish i did it earlier instead of TSD. Anyways cant change the past XD!
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« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2012, 10:48:09 AM » |
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Judo is brilliant  Not sure who gave you the idea that it was rubbish, but its nonsense ofc 
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« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2012, 11:18:13 AM » |
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i know -_-
My friend, who does kick boxing, i think i mentioned him to you, the guy i sparred with? I told you and mercnill.
Anyways i asked him about judo, because i was quite the newb 6 months ago, and i had 2 friends that did martial arts, and a few other friends that did things like karate i think.
Anyways they said that judo is "rubbish" as it is just "throwing" and they are completely useless... and so i got very put off the idea... Silly of me to listen to that rubbish!
Im extremely glad that i actually tried judo out though, instead of being an idiot i took a class... went in thinking i would learn nothing and i woudl find it boring, came out a new man, thinkng it was absolutely amazing, and was un able to not think about it for the next 4 weeks!!!
haha! And i have had 4 lessons so far, and all 4 of them have been the most fun and effective expereince i have ever had. Not one single day in tangsoodo (except MAYBE that day where i got about 40 - 45 min of constant sparring) has been as good as those 4 days of Judo.
Also the fact that there are no Katas in the club i am at makes it 10x better. Also, the most amazing thing is that to get to the 2nd achieveable belt (thats orange) you have to do a competition apparantly!!! That is frikkin awesome!!!
Since the judo club is a judo centre, so its quite big, lots of competitions are held there! So it is very competition based... = lots of sparing and NO KATAS!
Remember when i would practice really hard, i was really enthusiastic about TSD? you know what drove me to become better? Sparring, nothing else but sparring was driving me, and the love for it!
But then after i realised there was no point trying anymore, i knew i was not gaining anything. Infact i was actually getting very stressed with TSD because i kept on thinking whether or not i would get any sparring the next lesson, or if it would be full of katas again...
But now at judo, even though i need to get a job in order to go to all 3 lessons... that one lesson i go to is longer (1 hour and a half, although i am probably going to go 15 min early and practice some throws with the senior belts) and you get about 10 - 15 minutes of sparring at the end!
Also i have a very large amount of motivation because of more contact and more sparring.
I have a question for you though magnus for judo. Its about the belts. The red belt specifically. What does it mean? Is it the equivalent of a white belt (because on the judo license thing that i had to buy, it said that juniors get a free red belt or something), or is it after white belt (because before a judo lesson starts you all sit down in order from highest belt to lowest, and there is a red belter sitting next to me, or is it a very high belt (because an instructor wears a red belt there)... Im confused about that.
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« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2012, 11:29:29 AM » |
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And now you are bashing the TSD  . Kyokushinkai awesomeness:
Some Bujinkan/Ninjutsu awesomeness from my favorite teacher:
Damn, martial arts I'd like to try out: - Kyokushin karate - Sanda/Sanshou Either available in my region though. In 2-4 years I plan to go study abroad as an exchange student to China, and of course mainly practice Sanda + other Chinese MAs  Recently btw bought a few wooden weapons, a wooden sword(bokken) and bo staff. Been practicing with them rigorously, I really enjoy the staff techniques because they are devastating.
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« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2012, 12:01:47 PM » |
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Lol. I have seen really cool videos of TSD, ones that make me wish i stayed in TSD but then i realised my club is nothing like that (they were TSD videos where they would spar a lot, infact it made me more depressed about my club because i knew i could never have that!). The club was too kata based. Kyokushin karate is actually really good. It has very good aspects of it! Lots of nice conditioning so go for that (even if there is katas)! Have not heard of sandou! Nice one of the wooden sword. Hopefully you get to spar with it rather than just do Katas (my club taught some weapons training but all it was was just katas, and apparantly we will never get to spar with it, and even int he tournaments we are only allowed to do katas with the weapons and no sparring...) There is a chinese throwing art very similar to judo, i forget what its called but it might be nice to check out also  And dont forget to go for a bruce lee hunt  Some say he is still alive.
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« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2012, 02:10:03 PM » |
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The belt question: That all depends actually, as its somewhat..varied. Traditionally, red belts are for those who have advanced past the black belt and started on getting dans. But many have their own system for ranking, and there is no set "law" for how its done. You will have to ask, or you can tell me what organization your judo club belongs to and I will see if I find the answer  (It might be a honorary belt, stating you being a instructor etc?) The org I train in, I would have to get up to hachidan or kudan rank before I could use a red belt. Kyokushin is fun, done that for awhile now, but ended up on the backburner as I could start Judo again..But kyokushin will build character, everything hurts  There is a chinese throwing art very similar to judo, i forget what its called but it might be nice to check out also Wink That would be shuai jiao, and somewhat the ancestor of judo and so on(oldest references,even though it was surely different then, makes it thousands of years old)
Have not heard of sandou! Sanshou(means freefighting)/sanda=chinese wushu kickboxing with added throws and takedowns. One of my favourite fighters ever,Cung Le, is a sanshou practicioner. What I like, is after qualifying, other arts are welcome to participate in certain sanshou tournaments if they follow the rules. This is sparring, but sanshou is usually full contact. But this shows the aspects very well.
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