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« on: December 02, 2011, 10:10:13 AM »

So I stopped going to my regular gym to try a change of pace. I got 1 month of private muay thai lessons, up to 5x/week, 1hr/day.

I'm doing this to change muscle groups, take a break from the same old lifting routines, learn a bit of self defense, make myself a better person, etc, but NOT to hop into a UFC ring!

The training is kicking my butt. I thought I was in shape, apparently I missed a few muscles.  Roll Eyes


I trained 5 days in a row last week. Took the weekend off, then went 3 days in a row, now took a day off.

My calves and legs feel like mashed potatoes, even after my weekend off and not working them.  My jabbing arm feels like Stretch Armstrong, it is hard to lift it.  I'm taking my vitamins, protein, dieting like I'm still lifting and running daily (minus a few calories on my off days).  I love the training but on the 3rd day in a row, I just wasn't recovered at all and I know there is something to muscle memory but wow I couldn't find the strength to fight off a dedicated toddler, if one should have fancied a go at me.

Question: Is this over training?  Am I just doing myself a disservice by not taking my days off between training?  Do I need to let my muscles rejuvenate just like I was working on muscle building?

It is one thing to work hard, it is another to work stupidly hard.


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    « Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 10:14:25 AM »

    So I stopped going to my regular gym to try a change of pace. I got 1 month of private muay thai lessons, up to 5x/week, 1hr/day.

    I'm doing this to change muscle groups, take a break from the same old lifting routines, learn a bit of self defense, make myself a better person, etc, but NOT to hop into a UFC ring!

    The training is kicking my butt. I thought I was in shape, apparently I missed a few muscles.  Roll Eyes


    I trained 5 days in a row last week. Took the weekend off, then went 3 days in a row, now took a day off.

    My calves and legs feel like mashed potatoes, even after my weekend off and not working them.  My jabbing arm feels like Stretch Armstrong, it is hard to lift it.  I'm taking my vitamins, protein, dieting like I'm still lifting and running daily (minus a few calories on my off days).  I love the training but on the 3rd day in a row, I just wasn't recovered at all and I know there is something to muscle memory but wow I couldn't find the strength to fight off a dedicated toddler, if one should have fancied a go at me.

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    Is this over training?

    It is.
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      Am I just doing myself a disservice by not taking my days off between training?
     
    You are.

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    Do I need to let my muscles rejuvenate just like I was working on muscle building?
    You do.

    It is one thing to work hard, it is another to work stupidly hard.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 11:56:26 PM »

    Stop running its whats making you overtrain, instead do hybrid workouts/crossfit. This will help you with any sport you decide to do. Whats happening to you is that your cardio is bad, HIIT is what you want to do.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 07:32:41 AM »

    I'm not currently running, doing MT to change it up.

    My question  was related to those that have MT experience. I'm trying to balance muscle memory/reflex memory and overtraining.  I'm not training in MT as a vehicle to gain muscle.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 09:46:33 AM »

    Lifting weights makes you stiff. I like lifting weights but it is just not enough if you want to be in a really good shape.
    I used to do Karate many years ago but that's not relevant here. Currently I am trying to do some Tae Bo as cardio and I feel so weak and my coordination is so bad. I've started with it recently. Maybe 2-3 months ago. I don't remember exactly and I have been lifting weights for more than 5 years.
    I don't think that 1hr/day matial art is too much. I guess you are just not used to it yet. Maybe you should do it 3 times a week and in the rest of the week you could do weight lifting. You just have to find the right balance how much to lift and how much to do the martial art.
    Yeah I think that a martial art + weight training is the best combination. You will get agile and you will get strong at the same time.

    I hope I'll start with Muay Thai, Boxing or something else some day too. I've been planning to do it for several years now but I cannot organize myself yet. That's why I've started to do whatever I can at home for now.

    Yeah, I think you should lower the pace for now. If you are the best at skiing it doesn't mean that you'll be the best at rowing in just one month.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 03:02:49 PM »

    I'm not currently running, doing MT to change it up.

    My question  was related to those that have MT experience. I'm trying to balance muscle memory/reflex memory and overtraining.  I'm not training in MT as a vehicle to gain muscle.

    Well its easier than you think, to build muscle memory you have to repeat the combination hundreds of times until it becomes instinctual. Same with reflex.

    Just like if you want to kick harder, you have to kick a lot no other way.
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