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« on: December 02, 2011, 11:43:11 AM »

I've been going on my treadmill for the last 19 days in an attempt to get fitter. I've done 17 hours on it. It's been mostly jogging and at the moment I can run 6.3 mph for an hour without stopping.

My goal now is to run 5 miles in 35 mins (which would be running 8.6 mph for 35 mins on the treadmill) and I'm asking what would be the best way for me to achieve it. I want to be able to do it in 150 days and would like to run everyday.

I was thinking of doing a 40 min run everyday and gradually building the pace e.g running between 6.5-6.7 mph for 40 mins for 10 days. Then running between 6.7 and 6.9mph for 40 mins for the next 10 days until I can run 8.6 mph for 35. This would be my preferred way of doing it but I don't know if it would work.

I don't know how to do it though so does anyone know what would be the best way for me to approach it?

I'm 15 years old, 5'8, 147 pounds

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 04:36:32 PM »

Not sure if you need to run every day... maybe a couple of days rest per week would allow your legs to recover...

Depends if you get DOM's in them...

DO you plan to do your final 5 mile run on the treadmill or on the road/track? Because the treadmill is kinder to you than a road... what you can do on a mill you wont beable to do on the road for sure.

Overall it seems like a very sensible approach and I think you shouldn't have any problem reaching your goal if you stick to a regular training routine.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 02:03:28 AM »

Not sure if you need to run every day... maybe a couple of days rest per week would allow your legs to recover...

Depends if you get DOM's in them...

DO you plan to do your final 5 mile run on the treadmill or on the road/track? Because the treadmill is kinder to you than a road... what you can do on a mill you wont beable to do on the road for sure.

Overall it seems like a very sensible approach and I think you shouldn't have any problem reaching your goal if you stick to a regular training routine.

I do plan on doing it on the treadmill. I can't really run outside as it is really icy where I live and the area is not a nice place. I feel unsafe when I go running outside where I live lol. Also there is no places like running tracks anywhere... The treadmill is in my house as well so it's convenient

I do know it's easier but I am putting the incline up a bit to try to make it more even so at least it
won't be flat.

My only worry with the way I plan on doing it is I might struggle to go through the levels. My plan is to spend 2 weeks between 6.5 and 6.7 mph then the next 2 weeks do 6.7 and 6.9 till I can run 8.3 mph for 40 mins and then hopefully 8.6 for 35 mins

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    « Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 05:52:54 PM »

    PM hooahfries

    I was a 100, 200, 400 meter guy, no experience in the distance events.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 10:49:46 PM »

    If I had your goal and I didnt get bored running the same way, I would alternate running days 1 day on 1 day off and run for 35 minutes not including cool down just and try to increase 0.1 mph every few times I ran. If you can do 6.3mph for an hour you can probably run 6.7-7.0 mph for 35 minutes so that might be a good starting point.

    Since I do get bored of running the same way there are other ways to improve your pace I think and mixing up the running training is fun.


    I have a good sprinting schedule I used to do for a week during preseason soccer training every year. It's sprint training/threshold training I think this will improve your pace. I'm pretty sore every day of those 7 days. I would do formation 1, rest 1 day then do forumation 2. I think also running hills, doing stairmaster once in a while as opposed to only running on a treadmill will help you out as well.

    Formation 1
    Day 1
    12 minutes running, 2 min 30%, 2 min 50%
    short break, stretch
    12 minutes running, 2 min 50%, 2 min 70%
    short break, stretch
    12 60 meter sprints
    short break, stretch
    12 40 meter sprints
    short break, stretch
    6 short sprints

    Day 2

    12 minutes running, 2 min 30%, 2 min 50%
    short break, stretch
    12 minutes running, 2 min 50%, 2 min 70%
    short break, stretch
    12 60 meter sprints
    short break, stretch
    12 40 meter sprints
    short break, stretch
    6 short sprints

    Day 3

    12 minutes running, 2 min 30%, 2 min 50%
    short break, stretch
    12 minutes running, 2 min 50%, 2 min 70%
    short break, stretch
    12 60 meter sprints
    short break, stretch
    12 40 meter sprints
    short break, stretch
    6 short sprints

    1 DAY REST


    Formation 2

    Day 1
    12 minutes running, 3 min 30%, 3 min 70%
    stretch, 4-5 min
    6 times 100 meters 80%
    6 times 80 meters 80%
    12 short sprints 100%

    Day 2
    10-15 min warmup
    8 min running, 2 min 30%, 2 mine 70%
    stretch4-5 min
    8 min running 2 min 30%, 2 min 70%
    8 min running 2 min 30%, 2 min 70%
    8 min running 2 min 30%, 2 min 70%
    stretch
    12 60 meters 80%
    12 40 metres 100%
    12 12 meter 100%

    Day 3
    12 minutes running, 6 min 30%, 6 min 70%
    stretching
    12 60 meters 100%
    12 40 meters 100%
    20 times shorts sprints
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    « Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 12:09:38 PM »

    Thanks ekin

    The last 5 days I've done a 40 minute run.

    I done 4 days running 6.5 mph for 40 mins and today ran 6.7 mph for 40 mins. I plan on running 40 mins at 6.7 mph for the next 3-6 (depending on if I feel ready) days then I think I'll try 6.9 mph.

    I'm hoping to just keep upping the speed every 4-7 days by 0.1 or 0.2 (hopefully 0.2) mph until I can run 8.5 mph for 40. Then id be able to do 8.6 for 35. I do wonder if it will be too hard to keep upping the speed like that. What do you think?


    I'd love to achieve my goal by March 25 do you think it's possible?

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    « Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 01:14:02 PM »

    I definitely think it's possible especially if you're carrying a bit of extra weight around. That's a pretty good rate to increase by 0.1-0.2 every week. I think I would just run for 35 minutes instead of 40 minutes though if your main focus is improving speed I'd keep the time constant and just try to keep improving your pace for 35 minutes.

    I wasn't sure if I knew what I was talking about when mentioning threshold but this better explains it. I'm not sure the sprinting would help since it was probably more geared toward soccer players but in this article it talks about adding a 20 minute lactate threshold run each week that is near or at threshold pace. The threshold can be measured with your heart rate or speed. Check it out:

    http://www.runhilaryrun.ca/Images/LA_TH_VO2.pdf

    http://python.ca/nas/running_routine.html
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    « Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 12:43:39 AM »

    I definitely think it's possible especially if you're carrying a bit of extra weight around. That's a pretty good rate to increase by 0.1-0.2 every week. I think I would just run for 35 minutes instead of 40 minutes though if your main focus is improving speed I'd keep the time constant and just try to keep improving your pace for 35 minutes.

    I wasn't sure if I knew what I was talking about when mentioning threshold but this better explains it. I'm not sure the sprinting would help since it was probably more geared toward soccer players but in this article it talks about adding a 20 minute lactate threshold run each week that is near or at threshold pace. The threshold can be measured with your heart rate or speed. Check it out:

    http://www.runhilaryrun.ca/Images/LA_TH_
    VO2.pdf


    http://python.ca/nas/running_routine.html


    That's a good point about running for 35 mins. I don't know why I was doing 40 mins I was thinking that it would make it easier to do 35 but it will actually slow me down. I guess that doing 35 mins will make it easier to up my speed making my goal date of March 25 much more possible?

    I'm also trying to lose weight at the moment so I might add a 10-25 mins to the end of my run at 6.0mph to burn some extra calories without tiring myself too much. I done this a couple times this week and it's working well because I need to lose a fair bit of fat.

    I've got about 107 days till my goal date so I'd say about 100 runs in that time. Do you think I could up the pace 0.1 mph every 4 days untill then to achieve the goal or is that too much of a push.

    Thanks for helping man Smiley
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    « Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 05:19:20 PM »

    I'm pretty sure you can do it. See what your pace is for 35 minutes it might already be 7.0 mph.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 10:32:09 AM »

    That's an interesting question.
    Yesterday I have managed to run for 45 minutes at exactly 10 km/h (~6mph). I even upped the tempo to 11km/h for 10 minutes. I haven't tried faster because I was afraid that I won't manage to run for 30 minutes (that was my initial goal). The total time was 60 minutes. 5 minutes warm up and 10 minutes cool down. After one hour I felt that I could go on. I did cycling after that.
    I run slow and I want to run much faster. My route is 4.66 miles.

    Maybe it is a good idea sometimes to run longer to increase your endurance and sometimes to run for speed. I think that running longer increases my capability to run faster at shorter distances.
    Have you tried that: once you run for an hour or more as fast as you can for that distance and the next day you run you run for 35 minutes as fast as you can. The difference is the speed: Let's say the first day you run at 6 mph, the next day you run at 8 mph?
    So basically my idea is to adapt the speed to the time you run and then alternate.

    What do you think about that?

    Well that's not a complete training though. I have no idea how many times per week you should run faster and how many times longer.

    Just keep in mind that sprint runners and long distance runners have very different physique.

    And lose the extra fat Cheesy Losing the fat helps sooo much! I think when you run even 1 pound of extra fat is too much.
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