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« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2011, 02:17:32 PM »

I actually think Jiu Jitsu is the best martial arts to practice... no matter how skilled you are with strikes, if the fight goes to the ground (and 90% of fights do) you got the best thing you could ever have; knowledge of submissions

In a real street fight there is no grappling... I'd say from experience in a fight use the knees and elbows, fast and effective. Of course in MMA or other sports fight goes to the ground (not all) but that's just in sports.
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« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2011, 09:13:20 AM »

I used to TKD for about 10 years but stopped about 10 Kg ago. Got to 1st Dan. Great sport and some good memories.

Problem with TKD and Karate is that you hit a brick wall after 1st Dan - you've basically seen most of the art and there's very little new stuff to keep you coming back to the dojang, unless you really really want to squeeze that last 10% out of the techniques you've got.
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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2011, 02:10:40 PM »

In a real street fight there is no grappling... I'd say from experience in a fight use the knees and elbows, fast and effective. Of course in MMA or other sports fight goes to the ground (not all) but that's just in sports.

Doesnt mean it wont happen? Doesnt mean that things like judo and BJJ are useless in the streets... Its about how you apply it. I think throwing someone on concrete using judo is gonna be quite devastating. Then using an armlock on someone in the streets gonna hurt.

IMO Boxing + Judo = Win!
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« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2011, 04:57:32 PM »

Grappling is not a style thats well suited for streets...but if it comes to it, knowing some of it can get you out of trouble. There are a couple of problems applying something like a armbar in a streetfight, 1)you are on the ground with all that entails 2)you have to be dedicated to the hold, it doesnt work like in school or in the ring,"do you give up"..so where do you go from there? 3) Law enforcement. If they find you in a dominant situation like that, you are no longer defending yourself and it can be considered assault.

Add to 2 & 3, what if you actually finish the hold and break the arm. How do you explain that? You took him down, and instead of walking away, you got him in a armbar and broke his arm. That is a tough case on your part. Its easier to defend going all out krav maga that doing that. "He attacked, so I elbowed him in the face, kneed him in the groin and threw him to the ground." vs "he attacked, so I deflected applied a o soto gari(best throw/sweep ever) then I got on top of him and broke his arm".

Having been in a situation where I had to explain my actions to the police, this should be in the back of everyone who wants to learn self defense. You might be required to explain your actions.

Yes, judo+some striking is brilliant. Judo will give you chokes/bloodchokes, throws, sweeps, plus groundwork and how to avoid all of the forementioned. Bloodchokes will have people out in seconds(I accidentaly choked out someone in class), and dont have the risk of serious damage to the trachea as "regular chokes".



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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2011, 01:40:40 AM »

Magnus I agree with you in some regards but Hamid is saying 'armlocks' not just an armbar. Judo gatama waza are brilliant for disarming knives (only to be done in real life or death situations!) and there are arm locks which can be applied standing (hara gatame, te gatame, and I forget the japanese for it but armlock under the armpit as opposed to stomach) all of which can be easily applied standing and you are well within your rights to break someone's arm providing you have an 'honestly held belief that your life is threatened' or if there is multiple attackers and merely subduing one would not be sufficient.
Even still yes I do agree with you Magnus when you can; an osoto gari (or osota guruma) is the perfect throw for putting someone down quickly and getting out of there, which 9/10 you should do when you can't run.
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« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2011, 03:24:48 AM »

yeah i didnt mean just arm bar, there were all these other arm things they showed me at the judo free trial. And they look like the things ive seen in the self defense stuff.

but to be honest im not really doing judo for the self defence, im doing it for the sport side and for the competitions. I used to be interested in the martial arts and application in the streets but i find the sparring side, and i think ill find the competition side, far more fun Cheesy Which is why i want to join the judo centre. It is a competition based centre so lots of sparring Cheesy

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« Reply #51 on: December 27, 2011, 04:16:55 AM »

Magnus I agree with you in some regards but Hamid is saying 'armlocks' not just an armbar. Judo gatama waza are brilliant for disarming knives (only to be done in real life or death situations!) and there are arm locks which can be applied standing (hara gatame, te gatame, and I forget the japanese for it but armlock under the armpit as opposed to stomach) all of which can be easily applied standing and you are well within your rights to break someone's arm providing you have an 'honestly held belief that your life is threatened' or if there is multiple attackers and merely subduing one would not be sufficient.
Even still yes I do agree with you Magnus when you can; an osoto gari (or osota guruma) is the perfect throw for putting someone down quickly and getting out of there, which 9/10 you should do when you can't run.
Oh I aggree completely and should have specified, but my point was that one should be careful what locks you do apply Smiley Done Judo for over 4 years now, and the amount of practical techniques is tremendous.
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I do aikido aswell, as it and Judo share origins, they mix very well Smiley

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I used to be interested in the martial arts and application in the streets but i find the sparring side, and i think ill find the competition side, far more fun Cheesy Which is why i want to join the judo centre. It is a competition based centre so lots of sparring Cheesy
Definetly! Sparring,comps etc is alot of fun Cheesy I never did any style because I wanted to fight on streets, but alot of sparring etc, will give you seldefense ability.
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