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« on: November 03, 2010, 03:50:44 PM »

what do you think of using the Dynaflex power ball for joint pain or possible arthritis? what exercises would you recommend for improving joint strength and managing arthritis pain?
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    « Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 01:24:12 PM »

    I strongly suggest seeing your doctor to find out where the pain is coming from and what can be done about it. Blindly starting to treat it can backfire.
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    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2010, 05:11:03 AM »

    If you were going to be spending money on supplements I would strongly suggest Omega-3 based (cod liver oil, etc.), the higher o-3 content the better, and much more effective than taking chondroitin sulfate, heparin, glucosamides or any of a long list of anti-arthritic aimed medicines currently on the market.
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    « Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 05:34:00 AM »

    I strongly suggest seeing your doctor to find out where the pain is coming from and what can be done about it. Blindly starting to treat it can backfire.
    ^this

    because these:

    If you were going to be spending money on supplements I would strongly suggest Omega-3 based (cod liver oil, etc.), the higher o-3 content the better, and much more effective than taking chondroitin sulfate, heparin, glucosamides or any of a long list of anti-arthritic aimed medicines currently on the market.

    may work for you, but each have their own risks and benefits that need to be taken into consideration.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 05:58:57 AM »

    If you were going to be spending money on supplements I would strongly suggest Omega-3 based (cod liver oil, etc.), the higher o-3 content the better, and much more effective than taking chondroitin sulfate, heparin, glucosamides or any of a long list of anti-arthritic aimed medicines currently on the market.


    may work for you, but each have their own risks and benefits that need to be taken into consideration.


    That's like saying eating protein has its risks and benefits that need to be taken into consideration.

    Those supplements are basically the building blocks of cartilage and other connective tissue. What taking them DOES do is ensures that you have enough to keep regeneration going - however the majority of the population's normal diet acquires sufficient amounts to have turnover carry on as normal. Some people do not - and may become arthritic as a result - hence some do see benefit from taking them.

    Omega-3 supplementation is aimed for its anti-inflammatory effects, preventing exacerbation of the cartilage breakdown and majorly decreasing the pain associated with the joint. Then again, yes Doctor consultation is always optimal when there is pain or possible damage concerned.


    OP - by the way, i'm assuming you were referring to the wrists when asking about the powerball? As I am not sure it would aid only - great for grip and forearm strength - but anything else probably won't help. And if you were thinking about massaging with it or similar, a tennisball would work out much cheaper. :p
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    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 08:29:39 AM »

    If you were going to be spending money on supplements I would strongly suggest Omega-3 based (cod liver oil, etc.), the higher o-3 content the better, and much more effective than taking chondroitin sulfate, heparin, glucosamides or any of a long list of anti-arthritic aimed medicines currently on the market.

    may work for you, but each have their own risks and benefits that need to be taken into consideration.

    That's like saying eating protein has its risks and benefits that need to be taken into consideration.

    Those supplements are basically the building blocks of cartilage and other connective tissue. What taking them DOES do is ensures that you have enough to keep regeneration going - however the majority of the population's normal diet acquires sufficient amounts to have turnover carry on as normal. Some people do not - and may become arthritic as a result - hence some do see benefit from taking them.

    Omega-3 supplementation is aimed for its anti-inflammatory effects, preventing exacerbation of the cartilage breakdown and majorly decreasing the pain associated with the joint. Then again, yes Doctor consultation is always optimal when there is pain or possible damage concerned.

    Actually that's true.  If someone has a kidney disease then consuming the amount of protein we do routinely could complicate the problem, overburdening the renal system and effectively prolonging the dosage of any other medications cleared by the kidney. 

    For many people those things are perfectly fine, but for specific cases you need to be careful.  For example, heparin is an anti-coagulant (and a very good one) which has serious bleeding risks.  If there was say, a boxer, mma fighter, or football player who had some joint pain, and reading that reply decided to use heparin, they could suffer a massive hematoma at their next match / game.  That is an extreme example, but it highlights the importance of consulting doctors and pharmacists.  For the average person, the increased bleeding risk wouldn't matter.  It is never a bad idea to talk to doctors about any supplement or medication you are considering. 

    There are interactions and potentially unexpected side effects from all medications.  The vast majority may not be relevant to the person using them, but they still exist.  The 80 year old man on blood thinners to prevent a 4th heart attack doesn't care that his boxing career is over, but he has to be taught that he can't eat too much vitamin K, or the drug won't work properly.
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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 08:55:53 AM »

    That's like saying eating protein has its risks and benefits that need to be taken into consideration.

    Actually that's true.  If someone has a kidney disease then consuming the amount of protein we do routinely could complicate the problem, overburdening the renal system and effectively prolonging the dosage of any other medications cleared by the kidney. 

    I meant - in the sense that literally too much of anything will kill you, even water.



    For many people those things are perfectly fine, but for specific cases you need to be careful.  For example, heparin is an anti-coagulant (and a very good one) which has serious bleeding risks.  If there was say, a boxer, mma fighter, or football player who had some joint pain, and reading that reply decided to use heparin, they could suffer a massive hematoma at their next match / game.  That is an extreme example, but it highlights the importance of consulting doctors and pharmacists.  For the average person, the increased bleeding risk wouldn't matter.  It is never a bad idea to talk to doctors about any supplement or medication you are considering. 
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    Apologies, was referring to heparin sulfate. Aside from which, eat as much heparin as you want - no one will die from it:
    Heparin is given parenterally because it is not absorbed from the gut, due to its high negative charge and large size. Heparin can be injected intravenously or subcutaneously (under the skin).
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