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« on: December 03, 2010, 07:31:17 PM »

Hello everyone. This is mostly a question for Goldie and any other female who has experienced with women's nutrition.

First off, I am a male but I want to be able to fully help women too who have weight issues and the U.S. mainstream media doesn't help at all with its unrealistic weight standards for females.

I know that girls can't handle red meat as well as men can as well as if they drink alcohol, females drink 1 and males drink 2 and not to exceed that. The thing is, I want to know EXACTLY what to recommend for females who I wish to give advice too because I understand that their body fat recommendation is higher for women than men with muscle mass not being as of a necessity to women(unless they want to be bodybuilders).

Can you give me exact advice to teach women who wish to lose weight in what is recommended for their bodies and what they should stay away from?
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 08:14:06 PM »

Actually, the nutritional guidelines for women are the same as for men, with the minor exception that women generally need fewer calories than men because women naturally have a higher body fat percentage. It's not very much different, though. Any good on-line calorie calculator, such as   ---> Calories Needed Calculator will take gender into account and give a good guideline for women and men.

I have never heard that women can't "handle red meat" as well as men. Women have no different digestive chemicals than men.

The recommendations for women drinking alcohol are because women absorb and metabolize alcohol differently than men. If you want to give advice to anyone, man or woman, who's trying to lose weight, limiting alcohol is recommended because it has unneeded calories.

We've already discussed women's body fat percentage here in this forum; if you'd searched, you would already have found ---> Women's body fat percentages

I'd also recommend that you look at the sticky in this forum, "Women and weights - Myths and Facts".
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 06:23:29 PM »

Actually, the nutritional guidelines for women are the same as for men, with the minor exception that women generally need fewer calories than men because women naturally have a higher body fat percentage. It's not very much different, though. Any good on-line calorie calculator, such as   ---> Calories Needed Calculator will take gender into account and give a good guideline for women and men.

I have never heard that women can't "handle red meat" as well as men. Women have no different digestive chemicals than men.

The recommendations for women drinking alcohol are because women absorb and metabolize alcohol differently than men. If you want to give advice to anyone, man or woman, who's trying to lose weight, limiting alcohol is recommended because it has unneeded calories.

We've already discussed women's body fat percentage here in this forum; if you'd searched, you would already have found ---> Women's body fat percentages

I'd also recommend that you look at the sticky in this forum, "Women and weights - Myths and Facts".



The women handling red meat thing came from an amateur female nutritionist. 

Personally, I'm against drinking of alcohol altogether (with the exception of wine and rubbing alcohol and any other alcohol used for medical reasons).

According to your advice, then why do women usually struggle harder than men with weight loss?
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 05:02:45 AM »

The women handling red meat thing came from an amateur female nutritionist.  

Personally, I'm against drinking of alcohol altogether (with the exception of wine and rubbing alcohol and any other alcohol used for medical reasons).

According to your advice, then why do women usually struggle harder than men with weight loss?

I don't think your amateur female nutritionist has done enough research. I'm not a nutritionist at all, although I do look for the scientific basis for claims... why are you asking me these questions and not this amateur nutritionist?

I hope you don't drink rubbing alcohol!

As far as women struggling harder than men to lose weight, I believe it's for a variety of reasons:

1. I think it's more acceptable for men to be overweight, so it's not as much of an issue with men (at least here in the U.S).

2. Society expects women to be model-thin, which is unhealthy and very difficult to maintain.

3. Although most women are smaller than men, I think they eat the same amount of food as men do--especially women who live with their significant other. My TDEE is 1,800 calories a day, but my husband's is about 3,000. If I ate the same amount he does, I'd weigh 300 pounds.

4. Women gain weight when they get pregnant. After the baby is born, they don't get enough sleep because they're up frequently at night taking care of the baby. Research has shown that those who don't get enough sleep are often overweight. So women have a double-whammy here: the weight gain from pregnancy, plus the difficulty of losing weight after the baby is born because of lack of sleep.

5. Women are less likely to be involved in sports, especially women with children.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 06:18:22 PM »

The women handling red meat thing came from an amateur female nutritionist.  

Personally, I'm against drinking of alcohol altogether (with the exception of wine and rubbing alcohol and any other alcohol used for medical reasons).

According to your advice, then why do women usually struggle harder than men with weight loss?

I don't think your amateur female nutritionist has done enough research. I'm not a nutritionist at all, although I do look for the scientific basis for claims... why are you asking me these questions and not this amateur nutritionist?

I hope you don't drink rubbing alcohol!

As far as women struggling harder than men to lose weight, I believe it's for a variety of reasons:

1. I think it's more acceptable for men to be overweight, so it's not as much of an issue with men (at least here in the U.S).

2. Society expects women to be model-thin, which is unhealthy and very difficult to maintain.

3. Although most women are smaller than men, I think they eat the same amount of food as men do--especially women who live with their significant other. My TDEE is 1,800 calories a day, but my husband's is about 3,000. If I ate the same amount he does, I'd weigh 300 pounds.

4. Women gain weight when they get pregnant. After the baby is born, they don't get enough sleep because they're up frequently at night taking care of the baby. Research has shown that those who don't get enough sleep are often overweight. So women have a double-whammy here: the weight gain from pregnancy, plus the difficulty of losing weight after the baby is born because of lack of sleep.

5. Women are less likely to be involved in sports, especially women with children.


no no no! Of course you don't drink rubbing alcohol! lol. What I meant is I don't have a problem with the use of rubbing alcohol to kill bacteria with the proper procedure.

The reasons you listed, I agree. The big one is the unrealistic standards set by the mass media that women need to get to and maintain, which will kill you faster than a morbidly obese person if you're not Ectomorphic because of nutrient deprivation. I talked to a woman a few days ago(she was hardly overweight), she told me she ate whatever she want because she couldn't be as skinny as a super model (Pretty much, society convinced her that if you can't look like Paris Hilton, you're going to look like Rosie O'Donnell).

About women gaining weight during pregnancy, I can't say for sure, but I've have been told that this can be prevented but it is not easy. From what I know, women do get weird food cravings when they are pregnant which is one of the main issues. I've actually seen women who looked like themselves again after they had their baby and those women I saw maintain healthier eating habits than those who just let themselves go because now they have their man and don't need to look sexy to attract one.

But on the baby one, I couldn't agree more. Sleep is very important when it comes to weight, ESPECIALLY for women! (some time ago when I looked up about female weight loss, it stated one of the top reasons why women have difficulty losing weight is due to lack of sleep).

I'm glad you listed them because I need an opinion straight from a female who is into fitness.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 06:23:20 PM »

I agree about gaining weight during pregnancy--if the woman eats carefully, she can avoid unnecessary weight gain. That's a lot easier to say than it is to do, from what I've heard. But gaining unnecessary weight during pregnancy is in the same category as trying to eat as much as the man in her life. Both can be prevented, but often aren't.
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